On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 10:47:45PM +0800, Ian C. Sison wrote:
> This is a call for volunteers.  PLUG has been requested to field
> volunteers to defend the Linux boxes they will deploy in the ManilaCon
> Hackers convention in May.  (details on http://www.isssp.org.ph)

I have been given permission to take the week of the ManilaCon 2003
(from Monday to Thursday, which includes all three days of the hardening
period) off, so I'd like to confirm that I am volunteering for the
PenguiGnu Team.

As I mentioned on IRC, I recommend that we use Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r1
with complete security updates for the SittingPenguin, unless IBM or the
organizers exert pressure to use RedHat. Why Debian? Because Debian has
an excellent track record, IMO, and the stable tree is known to be
acceptably rock solid at any given time. Furthermore I believe
SittingPenguin should be fairly representative of the type of "secure
servers" we actually use in the field. True we can hack things up to be
as rock solid as igneous rocks can get, but if we don't actually use
this kind of setup in the real world then I don't see the point other
than having bragging rights.

For the bulletin board system I would like to volunteer to set up a
Debian Sid based system running a Squid accelerator, Zope and Plone,
similar to what I actually have up and running at free.net.ph. I am busy
preparing some final reports for school at the moment, but as soon as
this is done I intend to get in touch with the Zope and Plone
development teams to find out about the current state of security and
the track records of these applications as well. The Zope + Plone
combination seems to have a much better security track record than most
popular PHP-based bulletin board solutions based on my subscription to
BugTraq, but that could be because they're not as popular yet.

Anyhow, I believe as Ian said that beyond bragging rights this is a
chance to finally prove or disprove the FUD and our counterclaims, not
just to the world but more importantly to ourselves. We must eat our own
dogfood. ;)

Ian, if you would like to set up a coordination list for the PenguiGnu
team for ManilaCon 2003 just let me know. I'll be more than willing to
host one at lists.free.net.ph.

As an aside, I'm most displeased to announce that marc.free.net.ph will
be down indefinitely. Lurker has decided to fuck up thoroughly, and
segfaults during database rebuilding every time. This is only happenning
now with XFS (worked fine with ext3), but I don't think XFS can be
blamed completely for that. Everything else in userland works perfectly.
The Lurker list is quiet despite extensive reports I've filed, so I
don't know if I can get things fixed soon. I'll send a broadcast to let
everyone know when things are ok again.

... unless of course anyone has mailing list archival software
recommendations other than mhonarc.

 --> Jijo

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