> Oh gee, the point is not the fact that sshd can or cannot be compromised.
> You can do anything you like with software, as you so well know.

My point also is you can also try telnet over ssl, please search the thread
again.
And you said its crap.. ?

> Sure, install it. No problem.  But use it for remote shells?  Absolutely
> NOT.

> But did you guys tried telnet over ssl? :) -- some of my first message.

Again, for those reply nang reply nde nababasa ung first thread. I said try
telnet over ssl. And i said telnet is a good tool. Not use telnetd over your
network.

Haha, basahin nyo muna ung first thread bago kayo mag comment.

No offense to all :)

-
Louie

----- Original Message -----
From: "ian sison (mailing list)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Philippine Linux Users Group Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [plug] Telnet Problem


> On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Louie Miranda wrote:
>
> > What crap?.. "telnet has no place in a secure network"? oh.. Pati ssh.
> > Even remote shell (SSHd) tool can be compromised ;). Its a fact. In time
may
> > darating na exploit for it, we all know that.
>
> Oh gee, the point is not the fact that sshd can or cannot be compromised.
> You can do anything you like with software, as you so well know.
>
> The point is that the use of software that is by default and by design
> INSECURE is asking_for_trouble.  So in cases where you would like your
> network to be secure, you should ensure that the data you send out through
> the transit medium (ethernet, wireless, wide are networks) _cannot_ be
> hijacked by a third party.  Telnet by default does not provide this kind
> of assurance.  Ssh at the very least _attempts_ to do so.
>
> Therefore it is my conclusion that telnet when used for remote shell
> purposes DOES NOT have a place in a secure network.
>
> > Go all the way? You're just going to install it, bat naman
"circumcision"?.
>
> Sure, install it. No problem.  But use it for remote shells?  Absolutely
> NOT.
>
> >
> > Kaya nga, secure ur network always, etc. Be wise sa security.. lahat
nang
> > topics about security..
>
> Well that's the first thing we agree on then.
>
>
>
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