You can be mistaken too.
> You are mistaken to think this has anything to do with opinions. Telnet
> was written for a prior world where traffic wasn't sniffed, networks
> were small and mostly known, etc. SSH is designed from the ground up to
> be as secure as possible in a completely unknown environment.
The topic im pointing is NOT telnet, i said telnet over ssl. Try it for your
self if you can sniff the packets.
> Look, think of telnet as a horse. 200 years ago, you would have been
> well off riding a horse into battle. Nowadays, you'd be an idiot. Some
> guy in a tank would just shoot you for sport. Now, you could argue that
> a horse is a fine animal to ride into battle, people have done it for
> ages, some still do,
> and that's your opinion and why doesn't anybody respect it.
Im not sure if you've read the whole thread but im pointing out telnet over
ssl.
If you want to link telnet over a horse and ssh with a tank, no problem.
But how about telnet over ssl or telnet with ssl first, dont tell me a horse
with shields?
This is both with telnet server and telnet client, maybe you should try to
sniff the packets first.
For those who already tried it, edi walang prob na sniff ba?. Sa part nang
hi-jack, kaya nga secure ur network.. both w/ ssh and telnet-ssl and this
will go on and on.. on..
Its encryption you can still touch it, but while touching it is garbled.
SSL telnet(d - client, server) replaces normal telnet(d) using SSL
authentication and
encryption. It interoperates with normal telnet(d) in both directions.
It checks if the other side is also talking SSL, if not it falls back
to normal telnet protocol.
> But you'd be a fool. You need your own tank, and SSH is a tank.
And telnet-ssl?
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Louie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Chaney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Philippine Linux Users Group Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: {Spam?} Re: [plug] Telnet Problem
> On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 08:23:14AM +0800, Louie Miranda wrote:
> > Thats your point of view, I have mine.
> > And i respect yours, so respect mine.
>
> You are mistaken to think this has anything to do with opinions. Telnet
> was written for a prior world where traffic wasn't sniffed, networks
> were small and mostly known, etc. SSH is designed from the ground up to
> be as secure as possible in a completely unknown environment.
>
> An example of an opinion:
>
> Red is a nicer color than blue.
>
> An example of an indisputable fact:
>
> SSH is as secure as possible, telnet is as insecure as possible.
>
> Look, think of telnet as a horse. 200 years ago, you would have been
> well off riding a horse into battle. Nowadays, you'd be an idiot. Some
> guy in a tank would just shoot you for sport. Now, you could argue that
> a horse is a fine animal to ride into battle, people have done it for
> ages, some still do, and that's your opinion and why doesn't anybody
> respect it.
>
> But you'd be a fool. You need your own tank, and SSH is a tank.
>
> Michael
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