On Fri, Jul 02, 2004 at 12:39:17AM +0800, Sacha Chua wrote: > > There are guides. In fact, it's among the best-documented pieces of > software I know (which probably doesn't say much). It tries to be > self-documenting. As a package maintainer, I try to do that too. >
After learning a few Google tricks (like good allinurl:) I'm beginning to see a lot of good Emacsen tutorials... thanks to dido and to you ;) > However, Emacs requires a few rather difficult braintwisting paradigm > shifts. For example: > > - Leave your editor open. Don't close and reopen it for every single > file. People who complain about Emacs' startup times are using it > like they'd use vi: open, close, open, close... Opening it once and > leaving it open works. > Initially I hated putting Emacs onto my desktop because of the big real estate it would take up (on a 1024x768 15" CRT it matters ;) But after tweaking my XF86Config-4 and setting "IgnoreEDIDs" true on my nvidia driver I'm now happily writing this mail on 1280x960. Perhaps I better take a look around my locality and see if anyone has a spare 21"... Yes. I've heard this one before, and I've set my .xsession to startup an aterm with emacs -nw on it... Also, I seem to recall that putting a (server-start) hook in yor .emacs file should be really nice, as other apps needing an editor to work on should point to emacsclient, which automagically puts files you're editing on to the OTE. I'm gonna setup my .muttrc to do just that ;-)... > - It's okay for a piece of software to try to do more than one thing. > People who follow the Unix philosophy strictly think of Emacs as a > bloated text editor. After all, under that philosophy, it's just > supposed to be a text editor. Emacs probably wouldn't even very good > at being a text editor if it didn't have all those extra modules, > and strangely, being able to do my mail, news, IRC, web browsing, > and planning all in one app appeals to me. I think of Emacs more > as an environment than as a single app. > True. Indeed, what we see as 'bloat' is but a subjective deduction, often more an issue of perception rather than real fact. This goes to the 'Linux is Getting Fat' issue as well: the problem is not bloat, but rather, it is because we have a point of comparison (and for most of us, its Windows). More on that issue in my response to the earlier thread. > - Emacs could probably be used as a glorified typewriter, but nano, > joe, and jed are probably easier to use for that purpose. vim has > funkier syntax highlighting built in. So why use Emacs at all? I > like the way Emacs fits itself to me. <grin> I'm crazy enough to > want that. > Different folks, different strokes ;-) > > That's true. I suppose duplication and fragmentation can't be avoided > when you start making choices. Heck, GNU Emacs and XEmacs differ in > terms of architecture, making comparative emacsology rather difficult. > > I do regularly look at other PIMs to steal ideas and implement them in > planner.el, and I have fun customizing planner for people's particular > quirks. =) Even in the niche world of Emacs PIMs, I find my userbase > is different enough from the userbase of another tool. > > (I can talk about non-Emacs stuff if people are getting freaked out, > but I do hope you'll forgive me. It's the environment I do most of my > OSS development on and for. =) ) > I do find holy wars on editors/WMs/DEs/OSes very tiring (and boring) at times. So what if we had Vim, Emacs, pico and nano? Can't they just live together in one big happy family? I find it frustrating to see persons who bash some free software just because it lacks features other (possible !free) sw has, I it frustrates me even more because I too (in all my Humaness ;) fall prey to this. Cheers, Zakame -- |=-------------ZAK B. ELEP (Registered Linux User #327585)-------------=| || Web: http://zakame.spunge.org GPG ID: 0xFA53851D || || http://zakame.homelinux.org ICQ UIN: 33236644 || || Location: Daet, Camarines Norte Running Linux 2.6 || |=----------1486 7957 454D E529 E4F1 F75E 5787 B1FD FA53 851D----------=| Debian - When you've got better things to do than to fix a borken system
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