Roger Filomeno wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Roger Filomeno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:50:47 +0800 Subject: Re: [plug] [OT] Microsoft in Philippine Open Source conference... To: proc ps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Where do plain computer hobbyists like me fit in?
You fit into the trained category, i self taught myself to use the computer at the age of 13. at that time, windows 3.11 is still hard to acquire.. i started with DOS and GWBASIC as a hobby ;p
C64 basic peeks and pokes are more fun :) You should've tried that :) Works on an old tv set too :) Miss that blue screen =(
My fiancee's pamangkin is 7 year old and is already good at using DOS (since most of the games i installed at her pc are old legacy dos games). I was thinking if commandline usage is not so hard for a 7 yr old..then unix would be as easy ;p Thats are real example of how fast computer literacy is gained nowadays.
Comparing kids to adults is not fair. Toddlers have those sponge-brains that suck up alot of data and spit it out exactly as you have stored it (but not verbally though :) they still have problems with oral through-put, but you still have to watch out for parotting problems :) Yez, I'm trolling. Back on-line now. Sorry.)
I have yet to see this happen. Normal non-computer-day-jobbers shifting to nix...
Dont worry its comming up.. soon ;p
Hmm. I'm wondering for what reason they'll shift to nix. Piracy is still a boom in here. So no reason to bang the average Juan's head on the wall just for the off-chance that he'll use nix because of savings. But piracy on digital media is something that won't really go away. Another thread's worth of discussion... veering off again.
MS and OSS has the same hackability level for me. Its just that if you're into OSS you would mostly know more of the OSS security issues than on MS. I worked on both MS and OSS and their hackability features are mostly what is used in interoperating them, oddly they work so stable..
I meant kernel-wise, not security hacking. Although I could still raise a few points over ms on that.
You could make proggies in ms, yes, why not. But can you change it into *your* version of windows? I'm not talking about mere appearance changes here. I run OpenBSD and LFS on separate (old) boxes at home. My version of LFS was "founded" on tomsrtbt boot disk. I didn't even code anything heavy. Those are just minor script tweaks. It's not hacking, I know. But the stuff I learned and personalized when I did that project is not something I will get from windows. Not even if I use and code in it in 10 years. Not even close.
I didn't even mention the fact that the average distro-based linux has more programming tools that ms could offer.
m$: desktop diskette bootable MSDOS with simple commands trying to transform into a server-capable non-operating system. hard fella. keep going... oh, and try shedding off that insecure bug-hole-prone monoarchitecture on your way up will ya?
Its still monolithic.. then using scheduling routines to achive multi-processing/multi-threaded
That's why one patch takes alot of time to make. It'll break alot more than it will fix because of that architecture.
nix: originally a made-for-networking os humbly going down to desktop purposes for some needed profit$ :)
hey, thats whats scaring MS ;p
But still ms has more marketing muscle than nix. That's just from mere observation. But I wouldn't really know. I'm not familiar with the business/yuppie part of computing. (Thank God).
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