There has been many replies - I've been diligently removing them
because they were all hopeless and/or desperate, despite finding some
truth in all them.
As you can see, I could not let this go - it is symptomatic to how the
society organizes and clusters into incoherent/clan based groups with
diverse, but local incentive structure. Naturally, this is trivial to
exploit not only in telecommunications, but also in general - economy,
labor markets and politics.
In my opinion, PDX is unlikely to build common data distribution
infrastructure, because:
* It is relatively cheap and easy to wire up metropolitan area with
good return on investment. So, the market encumbents can effectively
respond to protect their interest.
* decent and fair data distribution networks are low margin, low tech
race to the bottom - this does not attract competing investment -
unless you remove a lot of friction from the market place.
* Market place friction reduction needed:
* dividing distribution and service markets - (networks from ISP,
power cables from transmission and generation, etc.)
* mandating inter-connectivity
* mandating open access for customers and service suppliers
* mandating non discriminatory and transparent pricing - this alone
could improve many bad things - imagine the same price for everyone
with the same service and charged as published
* ban on service bundling other than - sum of available individual
parts
* local PDX government have strong incentives favoring status quo:
* the less you stand out - the higher the chance to be elected
* any change invites controversy - which sadly is poison chance to
re-election
* this is multi term project for more than just one person
* funding is no problem as there is good ROI
* any local improvement is likely to further stress housing market
* in general decline and local price inflation works for local
government - less work, more taxes, hard to be held responsible
* Small places like Sandy and Roseburg are successful because:
* "easy to wire up metropolitan are with quick return on
investment" does not apply
* they have no other choice than community effort
* they can minimize the planning friction
* they often have access to rural infrastructure funding outside
the local encumbent political influence
* lack of other opportunities and can do today approach
So, the only way this can be done in PDX would be through:
a) local government measures easily labeled and quashed as
"socialist" or unfair to the encumbents.
b) By the community, without formal local government help - willing
to put 10-20 year of hard labor to it.
Scale:
PDX metro is roughly 40x25km on 80m grid = 12,500km fiber +
trenches/poleAttachments + 10k switches/routers + 60k residence
attachments. This is pretty small at today's scales - still, wiring up
1000 miles + 6k residences per year, every year is not DIY project.
I, like many others, would love decent and fair data infrastructure,
but for the reasons above - I doubt that there is group of 30-50 people
with unlimited perseverance, wisdom, patience and the right skills
willing to come together and spend life doing this for others despite
all the odds.
Linux + free software, on the other hand is land of free an plentiful
opportunities, even in Roseburg <-- while we wait eternity for decent
government for the people. :-)
-T
On Sat, 2019-02-02 at 07:57 -0800, mitch Stanley wrote:
> We are thinking of relocating to Roseburg , OR & surprise they have
> Fiber
> per DFN <https://dfn.net/about-dfn> . I was pleasantly surprised ! I
> feel
> the prices are reasonable - 100Mbps @39.99 / 250Mbps @$54.99 & Giga@
> $89.99
> <https://dfn.net/fiber-in-the-home>
>
> If Roseburg can do it , Portland should have accomplished this
> too! The
> only thing affecting this lack of Fiber in PDX is entrenched
> interests -
> Why offer
> fiber when the Big Guys are offering Broad band @ $65/mo ( My
> Xfinity
> bill for 100Mbps ) & you don't have to invest $$$ anymore plus you
> can Buy
> - SKY, Unviversal Pictures , & maybe a TV Network , like NBC.
>
> Sorry for preaching to the Choir , I do not know whom to write ,
> call,ect
> my frustration with the entrenched system. We would like to live in
> Semi
> Rural area
> but lack of Broadband drastically limits one choices but to larger
> cities /
> urban areas.
>
> Have a Great Weekend,
>
> Sincerely ,
>
> Mitch S.
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