Am I the only one who has noticed the overwhelming number of technical
questions asked by Ubuntu users.

I understand that Devs and Engineers have their opinions about what
works and what does not, but there is a sense of "did it actually
work".

1) If you want to know how many people use Ubuntu, count the number of
people talking about it.
2) If you want to know how effective Ubuntu is, count the number of
problems people have

Ubuntu is a platform that generates a LOT of bad publicity. People
start using by recommendation, and as someone who has done tech
support for ubuntu ends users in an official capacity, I can
confidently say that it's a shit distro.
This is one of those discussions that can't occur over email. We need
to start having these discussions in person and share knowledge in a
more succinct way. I don't need a CS degree to look at the PLUG list
and realize that Ubuntu is causing people problems!

There is also an amount of "data driven" decision making to be made
here. The sad fact is that there is no data for the rate of Linux
adoption overall, so Ubuntu steps in to make claims such as this one
on their website:

"Leading OS foir PCs, IOT, Servers, and the Cloud" ?

Really? In what universe is Ubuntu the de facto standard for all
computing? That claim is a bold-faced lie and its up on their fucking
website. Right now. You tell me how popular ubuntu "deserves" to be.


I'm sick of their shit and unlike Canonical, I ACTUALLY believe in
transparency - So I'm signing this message with my first AND last
name:
-Ben Koenig


P.S. don't need to sign with a PGP key, you can find me in the
Columbia Tech Center if you want to verify my identity. You know, real
life with real facts.

On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 5:44 PM Thomas Groman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 28 May 2019 14:48:53 -0700
> Darren Couch <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I've gone back and forth with distros for a long time.  Ubuntu works
> > fine for me - I don't have the rolling release blues like I often got
> > with Arch, or the ancient tools like I did with Debian or CentOS.
> > I like deb over rpm based solely on what I got used to.
> > If I need the bleeding edge of something odds are there is a PPA out
> > there making it happen.
> > Started in Ubuntu in the 5.x era.  Running 19.04 at home at the
> > moment. Anymore I don't like having to spend ages setting up a
> > development box.  I want mostly stable with the toolchains I need.
> > Ubuntu fits the bill for me.
> >
> > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 9:02 AM Paul Heinlein <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 27 May 2019, Tomas Kuchta wrote:
> > >
> > > > What is this about? Are you honestly asking question about someone
> > > > elses opinion? Are you willing to accept the answers? What ever
> > > > they may be?
> > > >
> > > > Obviously, the answer to your question - what is the best Linux
> > > > distro - is 42.
> > > >
> > > > 42 - Because it depends on what is the the question and who is
> > > >      asking it.
> > >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > Draw up your list of requirements, which might include
> > >
> > > * stability
> > > * support for a certain application
> > > * bleeding-edge software
> > > * scalable administration
> > > * good desktop interface
> > > * support for specific or niche hardware
> > > * minimal disk/RAM footprint
> > > * commercial technical support
> > > * ease of installation
> > > * ease of administration
> > >
> > > and then locate a distribution that fits your requirements. I find
> > > it difficult to believe that after 25 years of Linux distribution
> > > releases people are still looking for one distribution that will
> > > check all those boxes (as well as others I didn't list). None is
> > > perfect; each pursues certain priorities at the expense of others.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Paul Heinlein
> > > [email protected]
> > > 45°38' N, 122°6' W_______________________________________________
> > > PLUG mailing list
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> > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
> > >
> >
> >
>
> Why not just run Debian/Devuan Testing?
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