On Sun, 22 Sep 2019 20:09:36 -0700 "Mike C." <[email protected]> wrote:
> You make some good points, but also demonstrate the level to which > google is embedded in software development. In recommending ways to > get away from google's tracking, you mentioned compatibility with > Android, which renders all efforts to afford the problem meaningless. > Tracking > that is baked into the OS affects all apps running within that OS, so > you have to stop using android. Google's variant of Android from the AOSP Project is not the only implementation of an Android system. Completely google-stripped implementations exist, such as LineageOS and Replicant. There are also App Stores that are not associated with Google such as F-Droid and Amazon Appstore. There are also completely Android unrelated options available such as Debian Mobile and Librem. https://source.android.com/ https://lineageos.org/ https://www.replicant.us/ https://f-droid.org/ https://www.amazon.com/getappstore https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/ > Another example of OS-level integration is systemd. systemd defaults > to google's nameservers when no others are provided. It's a > fallback mechanism if standard DNS configuration fails, and is > implemented at compile time. Like you mentioned, it's more than just > IP tracking, you need to start rejecting entire chunks of your OS > stack if you want to actually get away from google's profile building. Completely doable and many such solutions exist. Regarding Linux network managers plenty of privacy respecting replacements exist such as Wicd and Debian Networking, and OpenRC. There are also a wide variety of systemd-free operating systems to chose from. My personal reccomendation is Devuan, which is binary compatible with Debian. Devuan supports both sysV init and OpenRC and comes with wicd by default. https://launchpad.net/wicd https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Setting_up_an_Ethernet_Interface https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/OpenRC#Network_management https://devuan.org/ http://www.slackware.com/ https://www.alpinelinux.org/ https://crux.nu/ https://guix.gnu.org/ https://artixlinux.org/ > > It's pretty disgusting these days. Distros like Debian and Ubuntu > working behind the scenes to sell out the community. Even Mozilla > links up with all those API's, making a weak claim that their use for > tracking is totally different from everyone else's. They still send > data to google servers... Indeed, there is a pretty extensive article about Mozilla's malicous and untruthful behavior on Neocities at https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/mozilla.html I am currently working on a fork of the modified Goanna engine which removes all unsolicited connections. Until then there is always Tor Browser. It's pretty easy to install and it's the best you can get for privacy. https://www.torproject.org/ > This has been a pretty long standing thread and I haven't read all the > > responses but this is some good and disturbing information that > > raises a few questions for me. > > > > Why is ip tracking itself such a concern? > > I tend to focus on the EFF's surveillance self-defense > recommendations of apps and general internet use practices. > > I don't see information regarding IP Tracking by EFF with the > exception of an article on Do Not Track Policy. > https://www.eff.org/dnt-policy > > I've used the uBlock Origin and HTTPS Everywhere browser plugins for > a few years based on some reviews I read, but I honestly don't know > exactly how they work and who effective they are. They essentially sit front seat in your browsing session and prevent connections to known tracking and advertisement servers. Umatrix works a bit differently than Ublock Origin in that it works on a heuristics basis rather than a blacklist basis. This offers far greatly protection but does require the user to configure it to their needs. > However, the rub is when you're trying to communicate with friends, > family and other orgs via digital medial. > > As far as Google's services. I wouldn't say that I rely on them, but > they're convenient and work well for my needs. > > I often use Duck Duck Go or log out of Google when I do Internet > searches. However, I consume a lot of content on Youtube. Searx.me and https://www.yacy.net/en/ are also great replacements for google search. https://invidio.us/ is a fantastic replacment for youtube for accessing youtube content. It's a completely HTML5 frontend replacement for youtube and it even works without any Javascript. There is even a non-web based frontend called youtube-viewer available in both gui and cli form. https://github.com/trizen/youtube-viewer _______________________________________________ PLUG mailing list [email protected] http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
