Tomas
Re: Clinic Dec. 15 , 2019

You are correct! I visited the clinic yesterday, Sunday, and Wes loaned me
a USB flash drive to complete the task.
In the process working on this problem, I discovered the following truths:

1. When using Rufus to create a bootable USB disk drive, the options given
are ISO method and DD method. DD method worked for me, even though it is
stated that ISO is preferred. The ISO method would not complete on my Win
8.1 PC.

2. When the newly created bootable USB drive was inserted, BIOS was then
able to recognize this as a boot option. I was then able to boot from the
USB disk drive and successfully install Clear Linux OS. I am extremely
happy.

3. The SD card that I was trying to boot from when I wrote the original
post to this thread was probably bootable, but I can confirm that at least
this ASUS laptop is not able to boot from the SD card. This is in spite of
the fact that the SD card reader is connected to the PC through USB and was
showing up in Win 8.1 USB eject menu.

Thank you Wes and Paul for attending the clinic and supporting me through
this painful process. Thank you to everyone who attended. I enjoyed meeting
all of you and hope to stay in touch with all of you.

Sincerely
Neil
e-mail [email protected]

P.S. The original post was about whether or not PLUG clinic members can
install Linux on my computer if there is no possibility of booting from
USB. ( for example, remove the hard disk drives from the PC laptop,
partition them, format them and install Linux, then put the drives back
into the PC ).



On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 10:02 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 2019-12-02 at 13:25 -0800, Johnathan Mantey wrote:
> > I was afraid that there wasn't a built in CD/DVD player.  Yes, a USB
> > attached DVD player will look the same as a USB thumb drive. No relief
> > there.
> >
>
> USB DVD drive and USB thumb drive are not quite the same thing when it
> comes to
> BIOS/EFI/OS. That being said, I am not 100% sure if the DVD drive was
> essential
> to boot on that thing, so I would not advocate getting one if not readily
> available.
>
> I do remember, though, that the ASUS laptop was probably the last time I
> used
> the DVD drive to boot anything. Still use it to read music CDs every now
> and
> then.
>
> > I assume this is a machine that does not have a BIOS upgrade path?
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 1:15 PM OR Linux Jobs <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Rich
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply.
> > > The version of Clear Linux OS that I downloaded is indeed the Live
> Desktop
> > > DVD disc.
> > > The BIOS is itself the culprit of this dilemma.
> > > And I'm curious about whether or not this is a trend.
> > > As Microsoft becomes more and more disliked for their operating
> systems.
> > > And as Microsoft's software development environment becomes less and
> less
> > > useful for creating desktop clients ( I call them fat clients ).
> > > This appears to be a desperate move to disable the hardware entirely.
> > > By the way I have no negative opinions about Microsoft Azure nor
> Office 365
> > > (except for one tiny complaint about e-mail aliases).
> > >
> > > Sincerely
> > > Neil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 12:54 PM Rich Shepard <[email protected]
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, 2 Dec 2019, OR Linux Jobs wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the answers
> > > >
> > > > Neil,
> > > >
> > > > While you tried to boot a distro from a USB flash drive for
> installation,
> > > > have you tried a live distro, such as Knoppix, on a USB flash drive?
> I
> > > > wonder if that might boot because it bypasses everything on the hard
> > >
> > > drive.
> > > >
> > > > Not being familiar with that hardware or anything requiring
> Microsoft's
> > > > approval (since M$ would not alloe me to upgrade from windows 3.1
> using
> > >
> > > IBM
> > > > PC-DOS 6 as the underlying OS) I've no idea whether a live OS would
> work.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Rich
> > > >
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