It seems to be a law of nature, immutable by mutual desire, that every
community you might want to interact with will choose a different messaging
app.

On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 10:47 PM Daniel Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:

> My friend who works in tech security industry uses "Wire" to message me.
>
> On Wed, Dec 25, 2019, 10:36 AM Mike C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 13:13, logical american wrote:
> > > I just recently found out that my Signal Messaging Application on my
> > > Apple Iphone has been compromised.
> >
> >
> > > Yikes!  Sorry I missed this earlier.  This is very concerning.  Could
> you
> > > please elaborate?  How did you detect this?  What happened to the other
> > > apps when they were compromised?
> > >
> >
> > The OP was over a month ago now. Not sure how I missed it either as that
> > type of post always gets my attention.
> >
> > I'm also interested in more details. I'm a bit suspect of an actual
> > compromise of the Signal app itself as opposed to the device itself being
> > affected by malware.
> >
> >  A quick Google search on the topic resulted in one case of a
> > compromised non-official Signal app that was distributed via some Secure
> > Android web site and not via Google Play store.
> >
> > If you are interested in cryptography applications, then it is safe to
> > > assume you know about Bruce Schneier.  His Crypto-Gram mail list has
> been
> > > a source of value knowledge about just these types of issues over the
> > past
> > > 15 years.
> >
> >
> > Thank you for this. I just checked it out and he seems to cover the
> gambit.
> > I read a post about NordVPN being breached via leaked encryption keys, 20
> > MONTHS AGO and the
> > company just disclosed this to the public!
> >
> > And you also know that Signal is the standard; I'm not aware of any
> > > alternative product that is as good with the same feature profile.
> > >
> >
> > WhatsApp uses the same protocol as Signal but it's owned by Facebook now
> so
> > who knows what they're doing to it.
> >
> > Telegram has been highly criticized for its security flaws. It doesn't do
> > end-to-end encryption by default and it's really developed and marketed
> as
> > a more "secure" collaboration tool like Slack rather than a simple secure
> > text app.
> >
> > Threema is a pretty good option. Developed by Swiss company with the
> > benefit of the highly regarded Swiss privacy laws. The code isn't open
> > source but they do publish yearly public transparency reports
> >
> > Surespot is new to me but looks like it might be the best option. It's
> open
> > source and it seems to be a just a lightweight secure text app.
> > https://www.surespot.me/
> >
> > Happy Holidays!
> >
> > -- Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I noticed a while ago you asked a similar question about secure e-mail.
> > > Did you find what you were looking for?
> > >
> > > --
> > > PRD
> > >
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