The general idea was that there are usability and feature tradeoffs, and
different tools try different choices, and it isn't clear what the right
fit is, and by trying a bunch you help figure it out. If I see the video
link, I'll forward it, unless someone beats me to it.

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 3:22 PM Ben Koenig <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 12:33 PM Mike C. <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > 1. Lack of true interoperability and vender / platform lock-in.  It used
> to
> > be that I could login to Chrome at the library and use Cryptocat and then
> > Signal.
> >
> >
> The millenial generation is currently engaged in an internal battle for
> protocol dominance. Once the bubble bursts and we have our second dot com
> crash, we will achieve a brief era of interoperability before the next
> innovation tears it all apart. Few people my age learned from history, and
> will therefore repeat it.
>
>
>
> > 2. Feature bloat. A lightweight secure text app  with out any voice,
> video,
> > emoji garbage.
> >
> >
> Remember the sole purpose of technology is to solve a given problem. A lot
> of people ask questions like "Which app should I use?" or "Does anything
> have any recommendations?" but in order to answer your question, we need to
> know what you intend to use said app for.
> Can you elaborate on your intended use case? The software is FOSS, so it's
> hard to pinpoint a feature when everyone offers the same set of features.
> To be perfectly honest with you, the majority of these apps are just chrome
> extensions. It often takes more effort to remove features than it does to
> add them so you are unlikely to find a "popular" app that doesn't do
> unicode and VOIP.
>
> As for the Secure part of your question, that's an easy one: Don't trust
> anything based on Electron or Node.js. The concerns you mention about
> feature bloat and security are largely due to convergent .JS platforms, so
> if you ignore anything based on those platforms, you are much more likely
> to find what you are looking for, with better confidence in your end-to-end
> encryption.
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