On Mon, Aug 31, 2020, 12:58 Ben Koenig <[email protected]> wrote:

> Not exactly. Ubuntu made some changes to the core init system a while
> back so now we are in this fragmented place where different distros
> accomplish the same task through very different means.
>
>
> Setting up the TTY is handled by the Init system. Most modern systems
> set up multiple virtual terminals ( 'VT' or TTY) and as a convention,
> VT7 is reserved for use by X. It doesn't have to be 7, and many
> graphical distros reserve both 7 and 8 in order to provide both a
> graphical login and the actual desktop. This is nothing more than a
> configuration option set by the distro (in your case ubuntu). Init
> systems can typically be configured for either server or desktop use
> cases but that is up to the distro.
>
>
> All of the advice you've received thus far has been from users of
> traditional Init based distros.


Not my advice, I assumed systemd, not that actually matters for tty
assignment conventions.

AFAIK, beside tty7-8, tty12 is also reserved for real time log.

 doesn't use init and instead
> relies on systemd to bring up the system. You should adjust your search
> terms to look for configuration options for systemd. I don't know how
> much documentation the systemd community provides for this, but it lands
> firmly within their jurisdiction and is not unique to ubuntu.
>
>
> It sounds like most people here are savvy with init (and not systemd) so
> a good search query for the internet might be something like "systemd
> configure VT1".
>
>
> Because systemd is a much more recent part of the linux infrastructure,
> you will have a harder time finding documentation for fringe use cases
> such as yours. I'm curious to know if what you are trying to do is even
> possible with systemd. As some have already mentioned your task is
> trivial with a sysv init system.
>
> -Ben
>
>
> On 8/31/20 12:32 PM, Chuck Hast wrote:
> > So I guess some gui gooo seeped into the server goo....
> > Did not think that would matter for a server that has no
> > graphics but I guess there is always the possibility that
> > someone would install it, so I guess that is why it is left
> > that way?
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 2:04 PM Tomas Kuchta <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> There is no tty7 because that is reserved for graphics/X/Wayland
> terminal.
> >> So, tty6 is typically the last terminal available to user.
> >>
> >> Tomas
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020, 10:45 Chuck Hast <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> had to move it to tty6 for some reason tty7 did not stick. I think
> >>> there must be somewhere that defines how many tty there are
> >>> on the machine, I am trying to remember where I saw it.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 10:23 AM Chuck Hast <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Oh yeah, I did NOT do the Hollywood thing...
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 10:19 AM Chuck Hast <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Thank you guys, that did it. every other search sent me down
> >>>>> paths to deal with the GUI type terminal... Now I have HTOP
> >>>>> but it is on tty7 where I wanted it in the first place. Just swapped
> >>>>> the 1 for a 7 and off it went.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 8:10 AM David Bridges <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>> The very first hit for me when searching for the terms below on
> >>>>>> duckduckgo more than likely has the information you need since it
> has
> >>>>>> information for Ubuntu and also information for systems using init
> or
> >>>>>> systemd.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> start htop on tty on boot
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As with most things there are more than one way to do this.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sun, 2020-08-30 at 22:31 -0500, Chuck Hast wrote:
> >>>>>>> Well went against the wall on that one. No inittab... Shows
> >>>>>>> you how much I have looked there lately.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Not sure now where to do the work on the console, has
> >>>>>>> to be in there.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 9:43 PM Chuck Hast <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> OK, I will go through all of it, has been a long time, did that
> >>>>>>>> sort of thing when we set up amateur radio packet switches,
> >>>>>>>> had a screen that brought up the switch info. That has been
> >>>>>>>> a LOT of years ago. moved to SW WA in 2012, I think I did
> >>>>>>>> the last packet radio sw setup back 3-4 years before that.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Yes, it is Ubuntu server and it is systemd... I will look for the
> >>>>>>>> config file.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 2:47 PM King Beowulf <
> >>> [email protected]
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 8/30/20 8:10 AM, Chuck Hast wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> That finished nailing it. I am going to work on it this
> >>>>>>>>>> afternoon, but
> >>>>>>>>>> that data brought it all back. Funny, my searches all brought
> >>>>>>>>>> up
> >>>>>>>>>> doing this in a terminal screen in the GUI, command line only
> >>>>>>>>>> gets
> >>>>>>>>>> no respect...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 3:20 AM Tom <
> >> [email protected]
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 18:41:20 -0500
> >>>>>>>>>>> Chuck Hast <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> There that brought a bunch of stuff back (old sux) and I
> >>>>>>>>>>>> started seeing light flashes, as I knew I had done it in
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> past but just could not remember how.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> This is a server box so there is no X on it.  I will
> >> take a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> look at screen/tmux, and see how that does.  Thank you
> >>>>>>>>>>>> very much.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi there. Just place where you see /sbin/agetty in
> >>>>>>>>>>> /etc/inittab with
> >>>>>>>>>>> the path to the program you want to launch instead. like
> >>>>>>>>>>> /usr/bin/top
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Be aware you will need more that just replacing agetty command
> >> in
> >>>>>>>>> inittab.  If you do not and stdout and stdin redirects, you
> >> will
> >>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>> have keyboard functionality. See my original post to this
> >> thread.
> >>>>>>>>> -Ed
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> >>>> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> >>>> Ph 4:13 KJV
> >>>> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> >>>> Fil 4:13 RVR1960
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >>> Chuck Hast  -- KP4DJT --
> >>> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> >>> Ph 4:13 KJV
> >>> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
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