Dave Bridges recommendation got me dead center (+/- a tty) A search based on the string he sent me:
start htop on tty on boot Got me to here: https://raymii.org/s/tutorials/Run_software_on_tty1_console_instead_of_login_getty.html Only thing I did was to change the tty first to 7 (I knew that on gui based machines that was the gui, but this is a server no gui.... Chee...), that did not work so backed down to 6. That works great. I do not need to ssh to it, I want it setting there showing that screen so some folks will see that some- thing is happening. Now I am off to battling other windmills. In the above piece once I got to the part about systemd, it was very straight forward. But yes quite different from what I remembered from years ago. Such is life... Systemd has a LOT of config files scattered all over the place, in this particular case if you look at the above link you will see that you end up creating a file to control the tty of interest, but looking at it all there is not much there to for guidance as there is with init. Thank you folks again, be safe and <2 meters>... (yeah 6ft but my world is metric)... On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 5:35 PM Tomas Kuchta <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 31, 2020, 12:58 Ben Koenig <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Not exactly. Ubuntu made some changes to the core init system a while > > back so now we are in this fragmented place where different distros > > accomplish the same task through very different means. > > > > > > Setting up the TTY is handled by the Init system. Most modern systems > > set up multiple virtual terminals ( 'VT' or TTY) and as a convention, > > VT7 is reserved for use by X. It doesn't have to be 7, and many > > graphical distros reserve both 7 and 8 in order to provide both a > > graphical login and the actual desktop. This is nothing more than a > > configuration option set by the distro (in your case ubuntu). Init > > systems can typically be configured for either server or desktop use > > cases but that is up to the distro. > > > > > > All of the advice you've received thus far has been from users of > > traditional Init based distros. > > > Not my advice, I assumed systemd, not that actually matters for tty > assignment conventions. > > AFAIK, beside tty7-8, tty12 is also reserved for real time log. > > doesn't use init and instead > > relies on systemd to bring up the system. You should adjust your search > > terms to look for configuration options for systemd. I don't know how > > much documentation the systemd community provides for this, but it lands > > firmly within their jurisdiction and is not unique to ubuntu. > > > > > > It sounds like most people here are savvy with init (and not systemd) so > > a good search query for the internet might be something like "systemd > > configure VT1". > > > > > > Because systemd is a much more recent part of the linux infrastructure, > > you will have a harder time finding documentation for fringe use cases > > such as yours. I'm curious to know if what you are trying to do is even > > possible with systemd. As some have already mentioned your task is > > trivial with a sysv init system. > > > > -Ben > > > > > > On 8/31/20 12:32 PM, Chuck Hast wrote: > > > So I guess some gui gooo seeped into the server goo.... > > > Did not think that would matter for a server that has no > > > graphics but I guess there is always the possibility that > > > someone would install it, so I guess that is why it is left > > > that way? > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 2:04 PM Tomas Kuchta < > > [email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> There is no tty7 because that is reserved for graphics/X/Wayland > > terminal. > > >> So, tty6 is typically the last terminal available to user. > > >> > > >> Tomas > > >> > > >> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020, 10:45 Chuck Hast <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >>> had to move it to tty6 for some reason tty7 did not stick. I think > > >>> there must be somewhere that defines how many tty there are > > >>> on the machine, I am trying to remember where I saw it. > > >>> > > >>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 10:23 AM Chuck Hast <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Oh yeah, I did NOT do the Hollywood thing... > > >>>> > > >>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 10:19 AM Chuck Hast <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Thank you guys, that did it. every other search sent me down > > >>>>> paths to deal with the GUI type terminal... Now I have HTOP > > >>>>> but it is on tty7 where I wanted it in the first place. Just > swapped > > >>>>> the 1 for a 7 and off it went. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 8:10 AM David Bridges <[email protected]> > > >>> wrote: > > >>>>>> The very first hit for me when searching for the terms below on > > >>>>>> duckduckgo more than likely has the information you need since it > > has > > >>>>>> information for Ubuntu and also information for systems using init > > or > > >>>>>> systemd. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> start htop on tty on boot > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> As with most things there are more than one way to do this. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Sun, 2020-08-30 at 22:31 -0500, Chuck Hast wrote: > > >>>>>>> Well went against the wall on that one. No inittab... Shows > > >>>>>>> you how much I have looked there lately. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Not sure now where to do the work on the console, has > > >>>>>>> to be in there. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 9:43 PM Chuck Hast <[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> OK, I will go through all of it, has been a long time, did that > > >>>>>>>> sort of thing when we set up amateur radio packet switches, > > >>>>>>>> had a screen that brought up the switch info. That has been > > >>>>>>>> a LOT of years ago. moved to SW WA in 2012, I think I did > > >>>>>>>> the last packet radio sw setup back 3-4 years before that. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Yes, it is Ubuntu server and it is systemd... I will look for > the > > >>>>>>>> config file. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 2:47 PM King Beowulf < > > >>> [email protected] > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On 8/30/20 8:10 AM, Chuck Hast wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> That finished nailing it. I am going to work on it this > > >>>>>>>>>> afternoon, but > > >>>>>>>>>> that data brought it all back. Funny, my searches all brought > > >>>>>>>>>> up > > >>>>>>>>>> doing this in a terminal screen in the GUI, command line only > > >>>>>>>>>> gets > > >>>>>>>>>> no respect... > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 3:20 AM Tom < > > >> [email protected] > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2020 18:41:20 -0500 > > >>>>>>>>>>> Chuck Hast <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> There that brought a bunch of stuff back (old sux) and I > > >>>>>>>>>>>> started seeing light flashes, as I knew I had done it in > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>> past but just could not remember how. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> This is a server box so there is no X on it. I will > > >> take a > > >>>>>>>>>>>> look at screen/tmux, and see how that does. Thank you > > >>>>>>>>>>>> very much. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Hi there. Just place where you see /sbin/agetty in > > >>>>>>>>>>> /etc/inittab with > > >>>>>>>>>>> the path to the program you want to launch instead. like > > >>>>>>>>>>> /usr/bin/top > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Be aware you will need more that just replacing agetty command > > >> in > > >>>>>>>>> inittab. If you do not and stdout and stdin redirects, you > > >> will > > >>>>>>>>> not > > >>>>>>>>> have keyboard functionality. See my original post to this > > >> thread. > > >>>>>>>>> -Ed > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>>>>> PLUG: https://pdxlinux.org > > >>>>>>>>> PLUG mailing list > > >>>>>>>>> [email protected] > > >>>>>>>>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- > > >>>>>>>> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. > > >>>>>>>> Ph 4:13 KJV > > >>>>>>>> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece. > > >>>>>>>> Fil 4:13 RVR1960 > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>>>> PLUG: https://pdxlinux.org > > >>>>>> PLUG mailing list > > >>>>>> [email protected] > > >>>>>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -- > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- > > >>>>> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. > > >>>>> Ph 4:13 KJV > > >>>>> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece. > > >>>>> Fil 4:13 RVR1960 > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> > > >>>> Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- > > >>>> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. > > >>>> Ph 4:13 KJV > > >>>> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece. > > >>>> Fil 4:13 RVR1960 > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> -- > > >>> > > >>> Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- > > >>> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. > > >>> Ph 4:13 KJV > > >>> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece. > > >>> Fil 4:13 RVR1960 > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> PLUG: https://pdxlinux.org > > >>> PLUG mailing list > > >>> [email protected] > > >>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > >>> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> PLUG: https://pdxlinux.org > > >> PLUG mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PLUG: https://pdxlinux.org > > PLUG mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > _______________________________________________ > PLUG: https://pdxlinux.org > PLUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > -- Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. 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