On 2/3/21 3:12 PM, John Sechrest wrote:
I was thinking back to the Overhead vs blackboard conversation in the
previous note.
When someone asks a question and you want to diagram something to discuss
what was asked about, we would in-person pick up the pen / chalk and map it
out.
John, I think you just hit the crux of the issue. There appear to be two
completely different conversations going on here. The first is using
network communication to replicate slides used in business presentations.
The second is replicating the workflow used in education. Rather than
going with pre-generated slides the educator has a single slide and adds
to it over the course of the presentation. That's a whiteboard.
(blackboard for older folks).
There are currently no good software solutions for whiteboarding.
However, I've looked around and it appears that this deficiency is
limited to the application level. The underlying network and hardware
functionality exists to do this it just seems like no app devs have been
engaged on the solution.
I'm going to pop in to the PLUG meeting tomorrow if you want to discuss
it more. I don't see a straightforward answer short of "start writing
code" but there are more complicated ways to hack it together.
-Ben
In the virtual world, popping open a shared whiteboard has enough overhead
to be creating friction and breaking the conversation.
I think the draw it on paper and show it is actually likely in the top 3
options available.
Fast and easy. But not shared and somewhat limited on resolution (through
the camera).
Almost worth drawing it on paper, using the cell phone to take a picture
and then stuffing it into the chat.
I am looking for the low friction path to show a quick diagram. I have
tried in the past to use pre-canned images. So at some level, if I have
enough time to create the whole workshop, it is wise for me to stuff a
bunch of appendix slides of the images/graphs/issues that are likely to
come up, so that I can flip to that slide for a directed conversation.
However, when we have a more ebb and flow conversation about new things,the
diagraming seems to not work well in realtime.
Back to the pen/paper and hold it to the camera as the default choice....
Seems like there should be something more effective than that.
On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 2:55 PM Rich Shepard <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Wed, 3 Feb 2021, John Sechrest wrote:
What is the appropriate/effective tool that does the work that a real
life
blackboard does in a meaningful discussion.
John,
I find your question abiguous.
Most of the shared whiteboard software is not effective and is a pain in
the ***. How do you make an interactive diagram that works?
The need for displayed interactions among meeting participants seems to be
the reason shared virtual whiteboards were created. As you wrote, the need
might be there but fulfilling that need leaves much (everything?) to be
desired.
Non-interactive displays are easy: screen share of a .pdf, .png, or other
bit-mapped formats is what I hope works well. Otherwise I'll print the
files
and hold them in front of my face so the webcam sees them. Come to think of
it, that might be the simplest, easiest, and most effective solution.
And, in a planning or decision-makgin BOGSAT[1] virtual meeting,
interactivity could be accomplished by having one person writing all the
ideas on a sheet of paper and holding it up to the camera or webcam. Rather
primative but it will do the job.
Regards,
Rich
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