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From: PLUG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John Jason Jordan
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2023 2:00 PM

>It would be nice if VPN services advertised how effectively they stop others 
>from finding out who and where you really are.

They are never going to do this because they are constantly tweaking their 
proprietary protocols to get around firewalls, and they don't want the firewall 
vendors knowing when they made a change to get past firewalls.  And given who 
some of the firewall vendors are, and what they do to people they don't like, 
this is very understandable.

This stuff is getting very advanced nowadays since many firewalls are doing 
deep packet inspection, and looking specifically for patterns in packet traffic 
that indicate it is VPN traffic encapsulated in regular http or https traffic.  
So the proprietary vpn clients will modify the encrypted traffic to make it 
look like regular https traffic.

Never forget that for you, me, and probably all the readers of this list, that 
creating using blocking and messing around with VPNs is really mainly an 
intellectual exercise, but that there are many people in the world in places 
like Russia and China where a secure VPN means not having people breaking their 
doors down in the middle of the night and hauling them off to prison - or worse.

Ted

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