On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Eric Jacobs <[email protected]> wrote:
> Do you know how long it takes to do a seven-pass zero write to an array of 
> disks? It takes a LONG time. Even with a DBAN disk ready to fly, it would 
> take at least a day to go over a 1tb disk more than a few times. That is 
> PLENTY of time for the police to do a few hours of investigative work and get 
> a warrant. And if it does so happen that the data is all gone by the time the 
> police get there, then tough... they should work faster next time. Faster != 
> cutting corners
>
> There is ZERO reason why SWAT should be using shoot first, ask questions 
> later tactics. There is also zero reason why SWAT should be used to gather 
> evidence from or even question a peaceful citizen in the first place.
>
> "America... Losing freedoms in the name of freedom since 9/11/2001!"

Well, it only takes a single 0 pass to sufficiently make the data
unrecoverable w/o extremely expensive forensics (you will have to use
a microscope directly on the platter and attempt to read residual
signal levels--which will be complicated by the drive's internal
signal encoding scheme. But, on 1TB it will still take a few hours
even for that first pass.

If they really have good probable cause, obtaining a warrant should be
easy--a phone call away--then get in and get whatever evidence has not
been destroyed yet.
If they don't have good probable cause, obtaining a warrant should be
difficult IMO.

I would hazard a guess that the majority of crimes committed involving
computers do not threaten life. Thus presuming innocence before guilt
is less risky than doing so in a suspected kidnapping or other such
life-endangering criminal activity.

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