rkrug wrote: > > So while I always use / return to the LMS ecosystem, there is > essentially no integration with the Apple ecosystem, apart from iPeng > which is really great (but slightly outdated?). > > I am really wondering: what is the reason, why there is no further > integration with the Apple ecosystem? Is it because of missing Apple > users who can also code? Is it because of the limitations of the Apple > ecosystem? > I doubt there are enough users using LMS these days willing to pay for a new client side iOS app, this probably makes it less interesting for someone who have the knowledge and interest to do it for the money. The remaining opening would be for someone who are dissatisfied with iPeng, have the knowledge/time and want to do it for him-/herself or the community without a need to cover the costs/hours spent. I think most people with the knowledge are just happy enough with iPeng as long as it works with the latest iOS devices. Making something that is better than iPeng is going to be significant amount of work and the pricing scheme in App Store is designed to sell to masses rather than the relatively few geek users still participating in this community.
rkrug wrote: > > On the server side, the problem is likely more difficult, as I do not > know if e.g. Apple Music integration could be managed from any other > platform than a Mac. But still - it should be possible to get this > integration for a Mac. I just saw there is at least a web API to > https://developer.apple.com/documentation/applemusicapi (The Apple Music > API is a web service that lets you access information about the media > found in the Apple Music Catalog and the user's personal iCloud Music > Library. ) and also https://developer.apple.com/documentation/musickitjs > (MusicKit JS lets users play songs from Apple Music and their Cloud > Library inside your JavaScript app.). > Im pretty sure the limitation here is Apple. In theory you might be able to hack around MusicKit JS but Im pretty sure Apple doesnt legally allow you to use it to stream music to other devices, the intention with MusicKit JS is likely just to be able to play Apple Music in a web browser shown to the end user. Apple basically wants to be in control on which type of devices Apple Music can be played. Licensing services to other hardware manufacturers doesnt seem to be part of their business model, they want to handle the whole ecosystem themself as long as possible. MusicKit JS likely exists only because it makes it possible to sell Apple Music to a significant amount of Windows and Android users. Its not a focus area for Apple and just exists because they would loose too many Apple Music subscribers if they didnt offer it. Disregarding the legal risks someone trying to hack around MusicKit JS would take I also doubt there are enough users who would be willing to pay for a LMS integration to cover the development/maintenance costs. Best hope is likely that someone tries to hack around it and offer something for free, that could possibly make it go under the radar of Apple lawyers. Would probably have to be done by someone who dont care if they get banned as Apple Developer by Apple. If you dont charge people for the integration Apple might be satisfied by shutting down your integration and banning you from further development. rkrug wrote: > > LMS is great, and I even consider getting a Qobuz subscription only for > LMS. But I would prefer if LMS would integrate more with the Apple > ecosystem and I would happily give the money I would pay for Qobuz to > the further development of LMS and the LMS - Apple integration. > There are probably a few more people that would pay 10-20 USD/month but Im pretty sure we are talking about 10-20 people rather than 100 or 1000. The situation was different 2009 when Logitech still sold commercial Squeezebox hardware to the massmarket. Most people still feel like a one time cost of 10 USD is a lot and the fact that there is no massmarket Squeezebox player hardware doesnt improve the situation/interest. The main reason Im still using Spotify instead of Apple Music is that Spotify is supported in LMS so I do have the same wish as you have but Im not sure Id pay 20USD/month (10 to Apple and 10 for LMS integration) for Apple Music. Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info)) Developer of 'many plugins/applets' (https://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User_Erland.html) *Starting with LMS 8.0 I no longer support my plugins/applets* ('see here for more information' (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?49483-Announce-New-versions-of-erlands-plugins&p=998836&viewfull=1#post998836) ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113721
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