I'm
in. I guess the place to start would be a list of changes/improvements
we'd like to see.
I
would like to see the following:
The ability to use loops and conditional logic within Plum
forms tags.
Better "field sections" and layout
options.
Adding
a few steps to the set up process so the application that one starts with looks
more like "your app" and less like a plum app. choosing a default image
for the header, providing company info for page header comments ect. This
would make it much more obvious to first timers how much the framework/set-up
provides for them.
The
IDE would be much more useful if we could have the generated pages order the
form fields using a field in the database called fieldOrder or some similar
very specific name, the IDE could default to the current A-Z
ordering if that specific field does not exist. That would really give a
big boost to initial coding. Right now, with ordering A-Z, it almost as
much work to reorder all the fields as it is to type them all
out.
What
kind of changes did you have in mind Jeff?
It might be helpful, for a start, if we
compared the "hacks" we have made...this would point to improvements that could
be made.
Mark
[Mark Fuqua]
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I'm interested! (though with a full-time job in an enterprise shop, and a 2-month-year-old, I can't promise much help).
One of the most common real-world CF development challenges out there is Legacy Code: bastardized Fusebox 2/3/4 codebases full of "working" CF 4/5-style code that needs to be re-factored into something scalable and robust (preferably making intelligent use of CFCs and CustomTags... elegantly, like the way Plum does so well)... without starting from scratch. If we could come up with a strategy to market PLUM as a framework that let's developers easily and smoothly transition from Legacy spaghetti code to well-documented, componentized PLUM code, then I think we'd be on to something. We'd stand out.
Until then, PLUM will only be used by a few adventurous folks.
( and I'd love to get my hands on the BD .NET version of PLUM ;-)
Aaron Longnion
HomeAway.com
On 8/29/06, Jeff Fleitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hey folks,
Can I get a show of hands of those of you on the list that still actively use Plum to develop applications (Adam and David, you don't count ;)? Is anybody interested in seeing another version?
Adam mentioned several months ago that there would be another version and was looking for volunteers to help with the tasking. If enough people are interested, I think we should take him up on it.
I still use Plum for all my development, even though I have been experimenting with Fusebox, ModelGlue, Ruby on Rails, and a little DotNet, and a little Flex over the past 6-8 months. I am an independent developer working on department-level applications, not working on an Enterprise team, and I find that Plum just fits better for what I do than all the Enterprise OOP frameworks out there. It is a testiment to the foresight and skill of Adam and David that I find Plum more than relevant still. While Plum offers so much out of the box, there is still room for improvement and some bug fixes. And we need to reach out to our non-Windows bretheren to try to get more traction and momentum, or move on to other environments. I personally would like to see Plum flourish, and so I am posting this message.
I was recently going over the mailing list archives, and was amazed at how active we were as a community only a year ago. Now it is like a ghost town. I for one would like to see Plum resurrected and get some community involvement going so we can remain relevant.
I have some ideas for enhancements, and I'm sure those of you that still use Plum do as well. But before we put the cart before the horse - is anybody interested?
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