I'm another person who has downloaded and looked, but little more. Since I have wandered from programming into networking, my skills are probably not what you need to help write a new version, but I would be willing to help with documentation perhaps or marketing....
Dana
On 8/30/06, Vince Collins (NHJobs.com) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hey all,
I'm not a plum user. I've only gone as far as downloading and
installing it which turned out nice but I never have taken the time to
adopt it in a real-life application. I suppose we could discuss why
that is on another thread. However, I have followed these emails for
about a year or so now and feel like there is a real opportunity to
breath life back into what seems like a useful core toolset.
Jeff mentioned that what they really needed were some killer apps
written in Plum and for people to be blogging about Plum...Maybe write a
blogging tool using Plum...etc
If the community decides to do this using a plum app or other, let me
know. I am happy to add your feeds to one of my pet projects
CFBlogs.com As a matter of fact, I might even go as far as considering
hosting a blogging app on the site that is written with Plum for the
community at large to use similar to blogger.com and others. I'd also
consider hosting any other community-use CF-based applications written
in Plum in the future.
Let me know your thoughts...
Vince Collins
NHJobs.com
http://www.nhjobs.com
Jeff Fleitz wrote:
> I agree with your assessment, Aaron. One of the things Plum really
> does well is help you organize your application. Joe Rinehart
> (ModelGlue) even commented on this in a blog review of Plum a while
> ago. There aren't a whole lot of files dumped in the root directory;
> the application layout is clean and makes sense.
>
> One of the things I really think would help, would be to have some
> bloggers posting about Plum. I have a dream... :) I am not sure that
> Adam and David want to blog about Plum, but I would do it, and sure
> there would be others as well. Those of us who have been using and/or
> extending it over the past couple years probably have some neat things
> that they could share. In fact, you could build a blogging app using
> Plum and make it freely available. So much of the functionality is
> already there with the integrated CMS implementation. If we created
> and made a CF Plum blogging application available, the way Ray Camden
> does, then you might have some interest. In fact, if you apply that
> reasoning to other niche applications and create them as plugins or
> 'plumming fixtures', you would have a lot of traction. Create some
> demo videos and post them on YouTube or Google video.
>
> Doesn't make sense to blog about a technology that isn't going
> anywhere, though. Which is why I am asking for the show of hands, not
> only of the folks who want to volunteer to help, but of those folks
> who are using Plum that don't want to contribute for one reason or
> another.
>
> We have to convince Adam and David that it is worthwhile to pursue
> this, because they own the intellectual property rights, and would
> have to be involved as Adam has pointed out. This isn't an oss project.
>
>
>
> On 8/29/06, *Aaron Longnion* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> I'm interested! (though with a full-time job in an enterprise
> shop, and a 2-month-year-old, I can't promise much help).
>
> One of the most common real-world CF development challenges out
> there is Legacy Code: bastardized Fusebox 2/3/4 codebases full of
> "working" CF 4/5-style code that needs to be re-factored into
> something scalable and robust (preferably making intelligent use
> of CFCs and CustomTags... elegantly, like the way Plum does so
> well)... without starting from scratch. If we could come up with
> a strategy to market PLUM as a framework that let's developers
> easily and smoothly transition from Legacy spaghetti code to
> well-documented, componentized PLUM code, then I think we'd be on
> to something. We'd stand out.
>
> Until then, PLUM will only be used by a few adventurous folks.
>
> ( and I'd love to get my hands on the BD .NET version of PLUM ;-)
>
> Aaron Longnion
> HomeAway.com
>
>
>
> On 8/29/06, *Jeff Fleitz* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> Can I get a show of hands of those of you on the list that
> still actively use Plum to develop applications (Adam and
> David, you don't count ;)? Is anybody interested in seeing
> another version?
>
> Adam mentioned several months ago that there would be another
> version and was looking for volunteers to help with the
> tasking. If enough people are interested, I think we should
> take him up on it.
>
> I still use Plum for all my development, even though I have
> been experimenting with Fusebox, ModelGlue, Ruby on Rails, and
> a little DotNet, and a little Flex over the past 6-8 months. I
> am an independent developer working on department-level
> applications, not working on an Enterprise team, and I find
> that Plum just fits better for what I do than all the
> Enterprise OOP frameworks out there. It is a testiment to the
> foresight and skill of Adam and David that I find Plum more
> than relevant still. While Plum offers so much out of the
> box, there is still room for improvement and some bug fixes.
> And we need to reach out to our non-Windows bretheren to try
> to get more traction and momentum, or move on to other
> environments. I personally would like to see Plum flourish,
> and so I am posting this message.
>
> I was recently going over the mailing list archives, and was
> amazed at how active we were as a community only a year ago.
> Now it is like a ghost town. I for one would like to see Plum
> resurrected and get some community involvement going so we can
> remain relevant.
>
> I have some ideas for enhancements, and I'm sure those of you
> that still use Plum do as well. But before we put the cart
> before the horse - is anybody interested?
>
> --
> v/r,
>
> Jeff Fleitz
>
>
>
>
> --
> Aaron Longnion
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 512-470-1211
>
>
>
>
> --
> v/r,
>
> Jeff Fleitz
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