Kamran,

"Instead of searching for or even assuming extra
terrestrial life or beings, we should do more to recognize our Maker and
figure out what he (excuse the gender thing) is up to." What do you suggest  
those who don't beleive in the "Maker" should do to "recognize what he is doing 
and figure out what he is upto?"

Suranee



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kamran 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 6:14 PM
  Subject: {Disarmed} RE: RE: [PNEWS-L] God's Will - Moderation (extra 
terrestrial?)


  Suranee,

  I don't know anything about Buddhism, but I do know that the physical laws
  are the same everywhere in our physical universe and since there is abundant
  evidence and rational inference of scientific facts that these laws are
  non-discerning and only act as the superstructure of the physical universe
  and thus could not have in any way put the information-based nano-machinery
  of life together on this planet earth, then they are pretty much as impotent
  everywhere else in the Universe when it comes to manufacturing the machinery
  for life. So if there are any "Extra Terrestrial Beings," elsewhere they
  would have to be placed there by the same Maker that has put us here.
  Whether our Maker would have custom designed another planet for life, as he
  has done the earth, and repeated the picture of life elsewhere is something
  to be discussed and argued for. So far I don't see why he should repeat
  the same project elsewhere. Instead of searching for or even assuming extra
  terrestrial life or beings, we should do more to recognize our Maker and
  figure out what he (excuse the gender thing) is up to. 

  Kamran

  From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  suranee
  Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 1:41 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: RE: [PNEWS-L] God's Will - Moderation

  Kamran,

  "I am here to challenge atheism and views that claim that life and its
  various formations are natural/autonomous outgrowths of the physical
  constitution of our universe."

  What about Buddhism? Do you think there's a connection between Buddhism and
  Extra Terrestial Beings?

  Suranee

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kamran 
  To: [email protected] <mailto:PNEWS-L%40yahoogroups.com> 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:adar%40blakhillsg0ld.com> 
  Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 1:53 PM
  Subject: {Disarmed} RE: [PNEWS-L] God's Will - Moderation

  [Facilitator's Note: See Objectives and Guidelines in the file section for
  this forum - and while there read the other files which you should have
  received when you subscribed... Hank Roth]

  I am here to challenge atheism and views that claim that life and its
  various formations are natural/autonomous outgrowths of the physical
  constitution of our universe. I would also like to discuss a whole host of
  other historic, political and international topics and ideas, all of which
  would eventually have a linkage with the truth behind human existence and
  future path; or as close to the truth as we can rationally infer. If you
  think these ideas should be moderated, then I have no place here.

  Please let me know.

  Kamran

  From: [email protected] <mailto:PNEWS-L%40yahoogroups.com>
  [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:PNEWS-L%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
  Behalf Of
  Kamran
  Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 10:34 AM
  To: [email protected] <mailto:PNEWS-L%40yahoogroups.com> 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:adar%40blakhillsg0ld.com> 
  Subject: RE: [PNEWS-L] God's Will

  I wonder why my piece on God's Will was not posted. Can anyone tell me how
  the moderation, if any, on this list works?

  Kamran

  [Facilitator's Note: See Objectives and Guidelines in the file section for
  this forum - and while there read the other files which you should have
  received when you subscribed... Hank Roth]

  From: [email protected] <mailto:PNEWS-L%40yahoogroups.com>
  <mailto:PNEWS-L%40yahoogroups.com> On Behalf
  Of adar
  Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:04 AM
  To: [email protected] <mailto:PNEWS-L%40yahoogroups.com>
  <mailto:PNEWS-L%40yahoogroups.com> 
  Subject: Re: [PNEWS-L] God's Will

  This religious brainwashing really is the opiate and dumbing down 
  of believers in belief. Jews who rejected circumcision and intermarried 
  with Gentiles were considered evil by the religious bigots - not much 
  unlike those orthodox Jews today - and if you want an example of their 
  bigotry go to the Israeli National Radio website and read the claptrap 
  there. Hellenization happens again, though now it is assimilation to 
  European and American culture. (Donnella: Antiochus turned Jerusalem into 
  a Greek city, not a Roman city)

  I'll take Zeus any day over Yahweh. Anyone who wants an accurate account 
  should read Maccabees II. The Jews were warring on each other like the 
  Sunnis and the Shias war on each other. Mix in some Christian Crusades and 
  you have creeds which can only appeal to the certifiably insane.

  Hank Roth

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