On (08/03/01 09:50), Rocco Caputo wrote:

> > Up to now using POE is kind of "raw". Building systems that are secure
> > by default should be easier if applications are written on a more abstract
> > level.
> 
> I have mixed feelings about this.  SSH (and SSL) can be add-ons, just
> as the Wheel classes should be in a separate distribution and included
> by bundle.

i dont ever want the raw-ness to go away. give me ways to hide it for a
while when i'm feeling lazy :)  or ways to build on nifty things like
ssl. but a lot of the times i wany very raw base code. i'm mostly a bare
metal kinda guy.

my .02$US

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Matt Cashner
Web Applications Developer
The Creative Group (http://www.cre8tivegroup.com)
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