By the way, the latest tactic from cia-drugs is to claim that mentioning
"Jewish names" in identifying the ringleaders of the Iraq War is "antisemitic."
This is a tactic straight from the neoconservative playbook -- the neocons
often complain about mentioning "Jewish names." Well, pro-Israel militants and
militant Jewish nationalists associated with Likud and Greater Israelism often
DO have Jewish names. Duh. Yeah: Norman Podhoretz, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard
Perle and many other neocons have Jewish names. So far no one has been able to
challenge a single name on my list, or to provide a list of his or her own
which challenges my list. The cia-druggies in particular do not deal in
empirical real-world data -- they traffic in half-baked theories.
Since cia-drugs regulars often use dirty (or stupid) tricks from the neocon
playbook, quite a few people have come to the conclusion that the owner of the
group is an Israeli gatekeeper in the conspiracy media (along with Jared
Israel, Art Bell and quite a few others). Israeli gatekeepers have been
positioned all over the political spectrum, from the extreme left to the
extreme right. Nancy Pelosi on the left is enabling the same Armageddonist
foreign policy as John Hagee on the right. Israeli gatekeepers in the
alternative and conspiracy media are working hard to suppress discussion about
the most fateful issue and problem in American politics.
I have also enjoyed Alan's posts. However -- I don't think I have yet seen him
offer a convincing explanation for how an American attack on Iran would be in
the American strategic interest with regard to energy resources or anything
else. Nearly all the zealots who are shrieking for an American attack on Iran
are pro-Israel militants and members of a messianic ethnic cult that couldn't
care less about the American interest or the interests of anyone outside the
cult. They are sucking up all the political oxygen on the planet in the
pursuit of policies that are enormously damaging to everyone, including
themselves. Messianic cults tend to be extremely self-destructive.
LeaNder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What is the other "fearful-future" scenario to which you refer?
Well maybe it wasn't the best of possible coinages? The other
"threatening-future-scenario" is the other side of the Janus face you present.
Let me try to outline a couple of its central images:
Armageddon or the religious entertainment spread by the "Christian"
fundamentalist war hungry pro-Israel crowd and their pro-Israel supporters. An
understandable but utterly bad idea. Although I take your geopolitical hints.
As the defense of "our way of life" makes oblique sense that way.
The final outcome may well, according to Sean, turn out as something more
sinister than we now would like to believe. Or put differently the people that
now pass on the word RESTRAINT as the utter evil hindrance to VICTORY, believe
their own WWIII or IV rhetoric more than we would like to believe.
And they studied quite well the best ways to sell it. See captials above. As
your version offers an ideal new near-sighted self offering of the old
scapegoat while creating the new one. Which would lead us into a new more
complicated scapegoat scenario.
>
> I'm really not afraid of the future. I've made all my inner
> adjustments already. I'm not afraid of death, and not afraid of
> being poor. I've been (relative to most Americans) poor by choice
> for many years, and I've found it acceptable, and even better than
> being rich. I've already trudged up the various learning and
> experience curves, and expectation-discount curves, so I'm ready.
> But most others are not.
>
> Alan
You sound like a very interesting and nice person. But I won't waste any time
in trying to trace: Alan from ann_harbor on the net. ;)
Thanks for your contributions, the absolutely best for a long time. Why do we
see all the strife and ad hominem arguments instead?
I am not sure if you know cia-drugs, or have ever been there. Sean definitely
can be nasty at times, especially when he tries to get his points home. But YOU
didn't show at all the usual reactions, so in a way for me you are a wish come
true. I always wanted to see somebody debating him instead of using all kinds
of dirty tricks. Maybe we are all in the fangs of group think, one way or
another. You showed the way out.
The Towers of Yorke
-jo
