so let's see, carter was by far, without a doubt the worst president
ever.  and clinton with all his scandals isn't far behind.  and if it
were not for carter and clinton, there would not have been a 9/11.

On Jan 14, 5:14 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote:
> Correction.. it's the History News Network.. Mike had it correct, but
> it morphed along the way.
>
> On Jan 14, 5:11 pm, frankg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > jgg,
>
> > Check outhttp://hnn.us/articles/48916.html
>
> > I'm not saying they have it correct, and they are wise enough to
> > present both sides of the argument (albeit in a very unbalanced
> > manner), but it does appear the story did originate from the History
> > News Channel. There just was an extra layer or two of indirection
> > along the way.
>
> > A couple of interesting snippet from the story;
>
> > Quote:
> > The second criticism that is often raised of historians making such
> > assessments of a current president is that it is far too early. We do
> > not yet know how the things that Mr. Bush has done will work out in
> > the future. As the only respondent who classified the current
> > presidency among the ten best noted, “Any judgment of his ‘success’ or
> > lack thereof is premature in that the ultimate effects of his policies
> > are not yet known.” True enough. But this historian went on to make
> > his current evaluation, giving Bush “high marks for courage in his
> > willingness to attack intractable problems in the Near East and to
> > touch the Social Security ‘Third Rail.’ ”
>
> > Quote:
> > “No individual president can compare to the second Bush,” wrote one.
> > “Glib, contemptuous, ignorant, incurious, a dupe of anyone who humors
> > his deluded belief in his heroic self, he has bankrupted the country
> > with his disastrous war and his tax breaks for the rich, trampled on
> > the Bill of Rights, appointed foxes in every henhouse, compounded the
> > terrorist threat, turned a blind eye to torture and corruption and a
> > looming ecological disaster, and squandered the rest of the world’s
> > goodwill. In short, no other president’s faults have had so
> > deleterious an effect on not only the country but the world at
> > large.”
>
> > Quote:
> > “George Bush has combined mediocrity with malevolent policies and has
> > thus seriously damaged the welfare and standing of the United States,”
> > wrote one of the historians, echoing the assessments of many of his
> > professional colleagues. “Bush does only two things well,” said one of
> > the most distinguished historians.  “He knows how to make the very
> > rich very much richer, and he has an amazing talent for f**king up
> > everything else he even approaches.  His administration has been the
> > most reckless, dangerous, irresponsible, mendacious, arrogant, self-
> > righteous, incompetent, and deeply corrupt one in all of American
> > history.”
>
> > On Jan 14, 4:44 pm, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Except the link is NOT to a  "History News Channel"  And there is
> > > nothing about it being a site for historians...   Who is Buzz flash???
>
> > > >>> It is a user driven progressive political news website that allows 
> > > >>> you to submit a story that may be reviewed by all visitors and may or 
> > > >>> may not be promoted to the front page. When you submit a story, it 
> > > >>> remains in the pending Buzz queue until it receives enough votes to 
> > > >>> be promoted to the main page.
>
> > > Fake news by fake historians promoted by sadly unfake idoits...
>
> > > On Jan 14, 11:55 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Those "educators" you talk about are the historians who some say are
> > > > supposed to be praising Bush when his term is over. LOL!
>
> > > > On Jan 14, 11:19 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > It isn't even the History Channel. Its a Washington state based blog
> > > > > run by a bunch of "educators."
>
> > > > > On Jan 14, 11:03 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > History Channel?????
>
> > > > > > Bush is still current events.
>
> > > > > > Wonder what the Hostory Channel wil say in 50 years when Bush is
> > > > > > history.
>
> > > > > > The Loons can't even pcae Clinton's achievements above Bush - to say
> > > > > > nothing of Jimmy Carter.
>
> > > > > > The Loons don't even try.
>
> > > > > > On Jan 14, 10:54 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Milk in your grits? That's just wrong, mikey! Butter, even cheese,
> > > > > > > okay, but milk?
>
> > > > > > > It's interesting. Even most of those who voted for Bush will no 
> > > > > > > longer
> > > > > > > defend him.
>
> > > > > > > On Jan 14, 10:20 am, "florida mike !" <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > yeah i know i just figured i would brighten lower case mark and
> > > > > > > > travis's day by giving them something to yawn at . :o}
> > > > > > > > hey ! just for grins and giggles i asked for a class of milk to 
> > > > > > > > put in
> > > > > > > > my grits yesterday at the local dinner . all i got was some 
> > > > > > > > funny
> > > > > > > > looks and no milk !
> > > > > > > > On Jan 14, 10:10 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > No surprise there.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jan 14, 9:18 am, "florida mike !" 
> > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > 'History News Network' rated Bush the worst president in the
> > > > > > > > > > nation's
> > > > > > > > > > historyhttp://www.buzzflash.net/story.php?id=86618
> > > > > > > > > > Bush leaves office next Tuesday with the lowest sustained 
> > > > > > > > > > approval
> > > > > > > > > > ratings of any modern president. With the exception of 
> > > > > > > > > > hard-line neo-
> > > > > > > > > > conservatives and other far-right hawks who ruled the roost 
> > > > > > > > > > in Bush's
> > > > > > > > > > first term, the overwhelming consensus of veteran analysts 
> > > > > > > > > > here is
> > > > > > > > > > that his "global war on terror" -- for which he is likely 
> > > > > > > > > > to be most
> > > > > > > > > > remembered -- has inflicted unprecedented and possibly 
> > > > > > > > > > permanent
> > > > > > > > > > damage on Washington's image abroad. The latter problem may 
> > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > matter
> > > > > > > > > > to those who, like Vice President Dick Cheney and the 
> > > > > > > > > > "neo-cons",
> > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > long disdained diplomacy and other forms of "soft power". 
> > > > > > > > > > But the
> > > > > > > > > > unexpected difficulties confronted by U.S. military forces 
> > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > Afghanistan and Iraq -- as well as the transparent failure 
> > > > > > > > > > of "hard
> > > > > > > > > > power" to have the desired effect in other "terror-war" 
> > > > > > > > > > theatres,
> > > > > > > > > > such
> > > > > > > > > > as Somalia and Pakistan (or Lebanon, in Israel's case) -- 
> > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > exposed
> > > > > > > > > > the limits of a U.S.-dominated "unipolar world", and the 
> > > > > > > > > > ability of
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