On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:18 PM, NoEinstein <[email protected]>wrote:
> Dear Jonathan: No! Only "schemes" that have the strings being pulled > by government would be socialist. My New Constitution includes these > and other protections to require "fairness" (not... equality) from > businesses: > > "Businesses and professions shall be fair to their employees and to > their customers. Again.... WHO decides what is "fair"? > The wages, benefits and perks, as well as the > charges that are made for goods and services, shall not be > discriminatory nor exploitive of any person, group nor class, low wages can not be paid to job trainees or people who did not get at least a GED. and the list gets more ridiculous from there. > nor > shall such be overly influenced by the profit motive of those who > perform no actual work on an ongoing basis. It no longer will pay to invest and risk your life's savings in a start up business... there went microsoft, IBM, Bethlehem steel, the first oil well, or any green technology requiring research. > Fair and honest business > practices require that management be forthright with employees and > customers without coercion." > They are already.... here is a price tag... pay or don't pay. Here is the wage schedule.... work here or don't work here. > > And... "Only laws, rules, regulations and procedures that are in the > best interest of the People and the world environment shall be passed, > Who decides what is in the peoples interest?? > enacted or enforced, and no business contrary to such shall be allowed > to prosper." Those organizations (grassroots, or charitable) that fight against what they consider to be unjust laws may not even start up ?? > Note: It is definitely in the best interest of the > people to be treated fairly by employers. Again the rules and pay rates are posted in EVERY workplace.... follow them or leave. > If an employee isn't > treated fairly, he or she can sue for damages in civil court. They already have that right. > A > business, such as a tobacco company, which sells unfiltered cigarettes > in foreign countries isn't acting in the best interest of the people > (of the world), and thus can be fined until the bad practices stop. > Just what right does your government have to legislate in MY country ?? > No business can mistreat people badly, Can they mistreat them well? > anywhere, and have the USA just > look the other way! — John A. Armistead — Patriot > > > On May 11, 1:47 pm, Jonathan <[email protected]> wrote: > > John, > > > > By "fair" I assume you mean "equality of terms; equity; as the fairness > > of a contract." > > > > How do you propose to accomplish such fairness? Any scheme of equalizing > > the social conditions of life is socialism/communism - the very thing > > you "claim" to abhor. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > On 05/10/2011 10:22 PM, NoEinstein wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Jonathan: In any economic system there are good and bad points. > > > Executive compensation, that has sometimes been at the expense of the > > > workers cranking out the products, should be based on what is fair, > > > not just who the supposed leaders of the corporations are. Wal-Mart > > > started out giving financial incentives to the managers of the stores, > > > until the wife of the founder insisted that workers would do a better > > > job, and stay on those jobs longer if there was a profit sharing > > > plan. A black janitor retired after forty or so years with the > > > company and had several million dollars in the bank. That sort of > > > fairness doesn't sound like socialism, now, does it. > > > > > I can't speak for Donald Trump, but in order to get quality labor for > > > building quality real estate properties�as he knows so well how to > do� > > > the compensation needs to be tops. In the long run, everyone in the > > > employment hierarchy will benefit when fairness reigns for those at > > > the bottom or at the top. � John A. Armistead � Patriot. > > > On May 10, 11:59 am, Jonathan<[email protected]> wrote: > > >> John, > > > > >> Repeat after me: Donald Trump is a socialist. From a 2009 interview > > >> about whether there should be executive pay limits: > > > > >> Larry King: Is Obama right or wrong to go after these executives with > > >> salary caps? > > > > >> Donald Trump: Well, I think he's absolutely right. Billions of dollars > > >> is being given to banks and others. You know, once you start using > > >> taxpayer money, it's a whole new game. So I absolutely think he's > right. > > > > >> That's socialism Einstein. > > > > >> On 05/09/2011 11:38 PM, NoEinstein wrote: > > > > >>> Republican presidential contenders are gearing-up to fight-it-out for > > >>> the right to run against� �Obama� in 2012. Every one of those > should > > >>> be required to answer this question: �Is it FAIR to have hugely > > >>> expensive primaries spread over months, with the most �power� > going to > > >>> the voters in the corn state of� Iowa? Answer: Hell NO! Nor is > it > > >>> FAIR to allow political parties to have any say-so, whatsoever, > > >>> regarding who the contenders can be, and how the country will be run > > >>> once the �winning party� has been decided. > > >>> Rep. Ron Paul, that sunken-cheek retread from the 2008 election, has > > >>> already raised a million dollars�probably earmarked for > brown-nosing > > >>> the farmers of Iowa for a chance to become President. Paul�s early > > >>> polling lead among the announced candidates has him positioned much > as > > >>> he was four years ago. The same anti-war, less-government crowd who > > >>> filled his coffers with hard cash, must still be impressed by his > > >>> unwavering positions on most issues. When Paul withdrew in 2008, he > > >>> said, �Elections are over quickly. Winning a revolution will take > a > > >>> bit longer.� But instead of leading a revolution, Paul settled > back > > >>> into business as usual in our broken and corrupt, party-dominated > > >>> government. Anyone so corrupted could never lead this country in the > > >>> new direction needed. > > >>> Judge Andrew Napolitano, filling in for a flagging Glenn Beck, asked > a > > >>> guest this question: �Who among the possible Republican > presidential > > >>> candidates do you think Barack Obama would LEAST like to run > > >>> against?� The answer to that question isn�t as important as the > fact > > >>> Napolitano is so matter-of-fact that Barack Obama will still be in > > >>> office, let alone be a candidate for President in 2012. My above > > >>> average computer graphics experience leads me to conclude that both > of > > >>> Obama�s purported birth certificates are bogus. *** In a very > public > > >>> and straightforward way, the US Secret Service should conduct a > > >>> definitive investigation of all �birther� issues, lest they > continue > > >>> to �protect� a scoundrel who isn�t a bona fide President of the > USA. > > >>> Napolitano shows his naivet� by recommending we vote for candidates > > >>> desiring smaller, lower cost Government who will support� the > > >>> Constitution. Over the decades, the Constitution has been ritually > > >>> praised. But that document was so WEAK that our government evolved > > >>> away from being the Representative Republic the Founding Fathers > > >>> surely wanted to mandate. My New Constitution is strength (control > > >>> over what goes on in Washington) made manifest! > > >>> Donald Trump is being �tagged� a �birther� and a �racist� > by Mort > > >>> Zuckerman�s NY news paper. Liberals call it a conspiracy that > anyone > > >>> would wish to apply the same level of technical facility to analyzing > > >>> two questionable birth certificates, as was used to assess the Shroud > > >>> of Turin, or the remains of King Tut. The long form birth > > >>> certificate, which Obama released to the press, was a *.PDF file, not > > >>> a photocopy of an original. That file was clearly LAYERS of PDF > files > > >>> placed one over the other to form a composite, counterfeit > > >>> certificate. Detractors of scientific reason, such as my own and the > > >>> hundreds of others like me, like to state that �The officials of > the > > >>> State of Hawaii have confirmed that the birth certificate is real.� > > >>> Great! (Gag, gag.) Objective, concerned Americans are expected to > > >>> defer to the word of officials in perhaps THE most liberal state in > > >>> the union. And only one corrupt official would be needed to unbind > > >>> and stitch-in a bogus certificate. > > >>> I found it most interesting that a supposed girlfriend of the > daughter > > >>> of the Dr. Sinclair, who purportedly delivered Obama, recalled, *** > > >>> after half a century *** a dinner conversation like this: �What > > >>> interesting things have happened to you this week, Dr.� > > >>> �Oh, I gave birth to a kid named Barack Hussein Obama. Isn�t > that a > > >>> pretty name! His mother is named Stanley, like I�m searching in my > > >>> family genealogy.� > > >>> That girlfriend then went on to say that she was �the last > surviving > > >>> person who remembers Obama�s birth.� Yeah, right. And that aunt > of > > >>> Obama who was at his birth in Kenya, must have had a� flawed > memory. > > >>> And wasn�t a Kenya birth certificate shown to be fake? Or� was a > fake > > >>> birth certificate PLANTED to discredit those seeking the truth? > > >>> *** Donald Trump is�in my well-considered opinion�the most > qualified > > >>> person to be President. I view his being a government outsider as a > > >>> 200% advantage, because, as has been the case with Ron Paul, the > > >>> corruption of the rituals of Washington runs deep for those who�ve > > >>> been there too long. Trump commented that his running as an > > >>> independent might actually help Obama by drawing votes from the� > > >>> Republican candidate. But know this, Mr. Trump: When Obama�s birth > > >>> certificates and etc. are recognized as being fake, no candidate > needs > > >>> to fear helping Obama win. Political parties are UNCONSTITUTIONAL > > >>> under the present Constitution. So, all primaries and runoffs should > > >>> rightfully be held on the dates spelled out in my New Constitution: > > >>> �The 3rd Tuesday in July, voters of all the states and territories > > >>> shall reduce the field of presidential candidates to 8, with the > > >>> incumbent Pres.& VP to be included in such number, if applicable. > > >>> The 3rd Tuesday in October, voters shall reduce the field to four, > > >>> with the incumbent Pres. and VP not automatically included. The 1st > > >>> Tuesday in November, each voter selects their 1st& 2nd > choices�points > > >>> 4 and 3 respectively. The President and Vice President Elect receive > > >>> the highest the 2nd highest total points.� > > >>> It�s obvious that few in the media, including at Fox News, want > > >>> Obama�s birth certificate to be shown to be fake. Glenn Beck calls > > >>> the �birthers� a conspiracy. And Beck discredits my calling > Obama the > > >>> �Manchurian Candidate,� saying, simply, that isn�t so. With > > >>> regularity, Beck talks about America needing� �manafacturing� > (sic) > > >>> jobs. And he says� �If they �would have� done that�� > rather than > > >>> saying, correctly, if they HAD done that.� Beck�s regularly > making > > >>> grammatical errors like those, places his IQ at between 90 and > 95�too > > >>> low to understand the figurative meaning in calling Obama the > > >>> Manchurian Candidate. > > >>> Those in the media, such as Britt Hume, Mort Zuckerman and Andrew > > >>> Napolitano, want to stampede the voters into believing there will be > > >>> business as usual in government. Nothing would so �shake up� the > > >>> media and our corrupt two-party government as having overwhelming > > >>> acceptance that Obama is indeed a FORGER as well as a bribe-giver and > > >>> taker. He did the latter things in arranging the endorsements of the > > >>> Clintons, and others, to allow him to become our� Manchurian > Candidate > > >>> President. > > >>> The (White) House cleaning that this country so needs, should be the > > >>> end of business as usual in Washington, and the beginning of our > > >>> rebirth as a prosperous nation! > > >>> Respectfully submitted, > > >>> � John A. Armistead � Patriot > > >>> AKA NoEinstein on Google�s sci.physics news group. > > >> -- > > > > >> Freedom is always illegal! > > > > >> When we ask for freedom, we have already failed. It is only when we > > >> declare freedom for ourselves and refuse to accept any less, that we > > >> have any possibility of being free. > > > > -- > > ... > > > > read more » > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > -- *Mark M. Kahle H.* * * * * -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
