Well PlainOl', listen to Dr. Paul's foreign policy agenda, and tell me where you hear anything regarding such a plan as massive aerial assaults......Dr. Paul would make an excellent Secretary of Treasury, but Commander In Chief, he ain't!
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 2:08 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]>wrote: > The fact is that there are fundamentalist Muslims who believe in > dar-al-islam that control many of the Nation-States within the Middle > East, > and these individuals want to see Western Civilization, (to include > the > United States, first and foremost) gone, done away with, destroyed, > G'Nite. > --- > that's true ... > > Doesn't have a thing to do with Nation Building, it has to do with > self > preservation > --- > to invade, destroy, and rebuild muzzy countries in the name of > democracy in insanity. > solution: find the terrorists, kill them, and then bring the troops > home. > we do NOT have a responsibility to rebuild what is destroyed nor do we > owe their innocent civilians squat!!! > in fact, they owe US an apology and should repay US for the expense of > getting rid of their scum > > massive aerial assaults work best and saves US lives > > > On Aug 16, 12:58 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > Anyone who thinks that there are just a few misplaced Muslims, and the > World > > of Islam is still the religion of peace is out of touch as much as Stinky > > is. > > > > The fact is that there are fundamentalist Muslims who believe in > > dar-al-islam that control many of the Nation-States within the Middle > East, > > and these individuals want to see Western Civilization, (to include the > > United States, first and foremost) gone, done away with, destroyed, > > G'Nite. > > > > Doesn't have a thing to do with Nation Building, it has to do with self > > preservation. > > > > Anyone who doesn't understand this, including Ron Paul, is flat out > > misplaced. *See* Whoopie Goldberg, Babs Streisand, Rosie O'Donnell, > Sean > > Penn, Barack Obama, Ron Paul, and a host of other confused Moonbats > and > > Crackpots. > > > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:44 PM, plainolamerican > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is the naivity of Paul's foreign policy and his lack of supporting > > > a > > > strong national defense that is troublesome > > > ---- > > > pulling US troops home is not naive nor does it weaken national > > > defense > > > > > those in favor of nation building and US intervention would disagree > > > > > On Aug 16, 6:20 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I think York aptly describes the issue, but to categorize "GOP > > > Operatives" > > > > as fearing Ron Paul is a bit of a stretch. > > > > > > First, I am not sure what a "Repulbican Operative" is. Is it someone > who > > > > campaigns, supports, and even financially contributes to the Party? > > > Then I > > > > would qualify as an "Operative" and I don't fear Ron Paul nor do I > fear > > > his > > > > supporters, including the crackpot supporters. I drink beer with > them, > > > go > > > > to Church with them, play poker (when I am in Tampa) with them, and > when > > > > the subject of politics comes up, try to show them the fallacy of > Paul's > > > > ways. Most of the Paul supporters I know agree, with a hand full, > that > > > can > > > > best be described as, "Crackpots". > > > > > > The truth is, that most all Americans agree with a smaller, fiscally > > > > responsible government that adheres to the Constitution of the United > > > > States. Paul stands for that, as does the Tea Party movement, which > > > again, > > > > much to the dismay of Democrats and far left extremists, I believe > is > > > the > > > > majority of this Nation. > > > > > > It is the naivity of Paul's foreign policy and his lack of supporting > a > > > > strong national defense that is troublesome and therefore > disqualifying. > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 9:53 PM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > *GOP operatives fear lasting Ron Paul problem > > > > > *By: Byron York > > > > > 08/15/11 8:05 PM > > > > > > > Republicans dodged a big bullet at the Ames straw poll on Saturday. > If > > > just > > > > > 77 of the 4,283 people who voted for Rep. Michele Bachmann had > voted > > > instead > > > > > for Rep. Ron Paul, then Paul would have won the straw poll. In the > end, > > > > > Bachmann came out ahead with 28.55 percent of the vote to Paul's > 27.65 > > > > > percent. No other candidate was close. > > > > > > > Some well-connected Iowa Republicans viewed it as a bullet dodged > > > because > > > > > they had long feared the possibility of a Paul victory. "It would > pour > > > jet > > > > > fuel on the East Coast narrative that Iowa is just too nutty to > have > > > such an > > > > > important place in the nominating process," says one of those > > > Republicans. > > > > > Before the poll, they saw a Paul-Bachmann one-two finish as the > > > worst-case > > > > > scenario. They ended up with Bachmann-Paul -- a result > establishment > > > > > Republicans viewed as somewhat better than the other way around -- > and > > > got a > > > > > lot of the criticism anyway. > > > > > > > The criticism came not just from Democrats or so-called Eastern > elite > > > RINOs > > > > > (Republicans In Name Only). "Ron Paul is going to destroy this > party if > > > they > > > > > keep him in there," said Rush Limbaugh the day after the Aug. 11 > Fox > > > > > News-Washington Examiner debate in Ames. "This is nuts on parade." > > > > > > > Key Republicans in Iowa -- and around the country, too -- are > genuinely > > > > > baffled by the Paul phenomenon. They understand (and share) many of > > > Paul's > > > > > views on the Constitution and limiting the size and scope of the > > > federal > > > > > government, even if they think Paul sometimes goes too far. What > > > perplexes > > > > > them is Paul's take on foreign policy, especially the threat of > Iran > > > > > acquiring nuclear weapons. > > > > > > > "Why wouldn't it be natural that they might want a weapon?" Paul > asked > > > at > > > > > the Fox-Examiner debate. "They'd be given more respect. ... What's > so > > > > > terribly bad about this?" As for sanctions against Iran, Paul said, > > > > > "Countries that you put sanctions on, you are more likely to fight > > > them. ... > > > > > I say stay out of their internal business." > > > > > > > The crowd in Iowa State University's Stephens Auditorium included a > > > large > > > > > group of Paul supporters who broke into loud cheers every time Paul > > > spoke, > > > > > including when he gave his views on Iran. "That audience goes > nuts," > > > > > Limbaugh said the next day. "I think, 'Oh, my gosh, what am I > watching > > > > > here?' " > > > > > > > It's likely most Republicans agree with Limbaugh's assessment, and > > > Paul's > > > > > ability to say such things and still remain a force in the party > > > confuses > > > > > many in the GOP. "What part of his support is attributable to a > > > different > > > > > world view, and what part is attributable to the economic > libertarian > > > world > > > > > view?" asks the well-connected Republican, who freely admits he > doesn't > > > know > > > > > the answer. > > > > > > > No one fears that Paul will walk away with the Republican > nomination. > > > But > > > > > with a strong core of supporters, he has the means to stay in the > race > > > > > nearly as long as he wants. That core support also earns him a spot > in > > > > > high-profile debates. To qualify for the Fox-Examiner debate, for > > > example, > > > > > candidates had to have at least 1 percent support in five national > > > polls. > > > > > Paul qualified with plenty of room to spare; in the most recent > > > > > RealClearPolitics average of polls, he has 9 percent support, well > > > ahead of > > > > > fellow candidates Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Jon Huntsman, Rick > > > Santorum, > > > > > and, until his withdrawal from the race Sunday, Tim Pawlenty. > > > > > > > Paul also has enough money to do what he wants. He reported raising > > > $4.5 > > > > > million in the second quarter of this year, with about $3 million > in > > > the > > > > > bank. Since he has decided to retire from the House, he can also > spend > > > > > unused funds raised for congressional campaigns. > > > > > > > Speaking of retirement -- one aspect of the Paul phenomenon that > has > > > > > received little attention so far is his age. Born in 1935, he will > be > > > 77 > > > > > years old on Inauguration Day 2013 -- the same age Ronald Reagan > was > > > when he > > > > > left the White House after serving two terms. If Paul were elected > and > > > > > re-elected, he'd be 85 at the end of his time in the White House. > Even > > > > > though Americans are living longer, most people would probably > agree > > > that's > > > > > too old for a president. > > > > > > > But the Paul campaign isn't really about the practical possibility > that > > > he > > > > > might become president. It's more about Paul's supporters forcing > the > > > larger > > > > > political establishment to acknowledge that he's right. "The day > will > > > come > > > > > soon when candidate Paul will get his due," tweeted one supporter > > > recently. > > > > > "Blowback is gonna be a b---h." > > > > > > > Of course, most Republicans don't believe that. But Paul commands > > > enough > > > > > support to make his presence known all the way through next year. > > > > > > > > http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/08/gop-operatives-fear-la. > > > .. > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > > > > For options & help seehttp:// > groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > > > > > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > > > > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > > > > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > > > > -- > > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > > > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > > > * It's active and moderated. 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