Thanks Rob. Am I supposed to be able to drag the rows in the example? If so 
it's not working for me (chrome or firefox)

On Tuesday, 14 October 2014 11:07:45 UTC+11, Rob Dodson wrote:
>
> You should be able to do core-list /deep/ [draggable] to disable 
> user-select
>
> ex: http://jsbin.com/xiqava/3/edit
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Anders Holmgren <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Günter. Yes I agree the problem seems to revolve around the fact 
>> that I'm trying to style the distributed nodes of the content element. 
>> However, it would greatly surprise me if this was not possible. It would 
>> seem to me a major oversight in web components / polymer if that wasn't 
>> possible.
>>
>> Incidentally I have a temporary partial workaround / hack by including a 
>> containing div in the test-row and making that draggable. It works but it 
>> means the draggable-list-item can hardly be considered a reusable component.
>>
>> Surely this shouldn't be necessary.
>>
>> Is Eric Bidelman on this list? Surely he knows whether this is or isn't 
>> possible with the web component css selectors and polymer.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 13 October 2014 22:19:55 UTC+11, Günter Zöchbauer wrote:
>>>
>>> I didn't have a very detailed look at the code but I guess it should 
>>> work the way that you drag-n-drop the element and when it is dropped you 
>>> modify the model to reflect the new item order.
>>> The problem I see here is that the [draggable] is on a tag in the 
>>> shadowDOM and the text is in the content
>>>
>>> <polymer-element name="xx-yy">
>>>   <template>
>>>     <div [draggable="true"]>
>>>       <!-- The text is projected into this content tag. The text isn't 
>>> selectable but also not draggable, Drag only works if it is started 
>>> outside of the text/content (on the div above) -->
>>>
>>>       <content></content> 
>>>     </div>
>>>   </template>
>>> </polymer-element>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 12, 2014 9:42:30 PM UTC+2, Rob Dodson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> + Kevin, who can correct me
>>>>
>>>> I'm imagining that this could be a thorny problem. The core-list is 
>>>> generated by a model and we usually recommend against rearranging DOM 
>>>> that's output from a model. Instead it's preferable to manipulate the 
>>>> model 
>>>> and let it re-render. core-list, in particular, is a virtualized list 
>>>> designed for lots and lots of rows, so moving its DOM around could cause 
>>>> issues.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Anders Holmgren <[email protected]
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The issue I am trying to address is the fact that I can't drag the 
>>>>> item when the mouse is over the text. In Eric's original example he 
>>>>> solved 
>>>>> this via the css rule
>>>>>
>>>>> [draggable] {
>>>>>   -moz-user-select: none;
>>>>>   -khtml-user-select: none;
>>>>>   -webkit-user-select: none;
>>>>>   user-select: none;
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> However, when I try to adapt this example to use web components I am 
>>>>> not able to get such a css rule working. Now the text items are coming 
>>>>> via 
>>>>> the distributed nodes of the *content* element. That is why I am 
>>>>> using */deep/* to try to bust through to the distributed nodes.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason I am interested in doing this is because I am trying to 
>>>>> build a reusable web component that allows me to drag and drop items in a 
>>>>> *core-list*
>>>>>
>>>>> So for example if you have a core-list like
>>>>>
>>>>> <core-list-dart height="100" data="{{data}}"> 
>>>>>   <template> 
>>>>>     <test-row data="{{self}}"></test-row> 
>>>>>   </template> 
>>>>>  </core-list-dart>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then I want to be able to make the rows draggable so I can reorder 
>>>>> them. I've tried several different options. The most recent is this form
>>>>>
>>>>> <core-list-dart height="100" data="{{data}}"> 
>>>>>   <template> 
>>>>>     <draggable-list-item> 
>>>>>       <test-row data="{{self}}"></test-row> 
>>>>>     </draggable-list-item> 
>>>>>   </template> 
>>>>> </core-list-dart>
>>>>>
>>>>> Where I have a reusable polymer element *draggable-list-item* that 
>>>>> encapsulates all the drag and drop logic
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Anders
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, 13 October 2014 04:19:00 UTC+11, Elliott Sprehn wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your selectors look backwards. I think you want * /deep/ [draggable] 
>>>>>> { ... }; Note that using universal attribute selectors like that with 
>>>>>> /deep/ rules is not particularly good for performance, you'd be better 
>>>>>> off 
>>>>>> putting it inside the components that you're using the draggable 
>>>>>> attribute 
>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Anders Holmgren <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do I need to be using something like polyfill-next-selector or 
>>>>>>> shim-shadowdom? I tried putting shim-shadowdom everywhere but no 
>>>>>>> effect. 
>>>>>>> I'm not sure how I would express the polyfill-next-selector in this 
>>>>>>> case. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interestingly I get totally different behaviour in this example with 
>>>>>>> the latest chrome, firefox and safari
>>>>>>> - chrome simply doesn't let me drag if I try to drag on the text
>>>>>>> - firefox actually seems to work
>>>>>>> - safari kinda works but if I drag on the text it shows only the 
>>>>>>> text getting dragged
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any pointers appreciated. I'm kinda desperate here as I've been 
>>>>>>> struggling for the better part of a week to get draggable items in 
>>>>>>> core-list working. First with core-drag-drop then when I couldn't get 
>>>>>>> that 
>>>>>>> to work, going back to native html 5 dnd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Friday, 10 October 2014 09:42:01 UTC+11, Anders Holmgren wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm trying to get the equivalent of Eric Bidelman's  
>>>>>>>> http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/dnd/basics/ working with 
>>>>>>>> polymer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so in place of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     <div id="columns">
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       <div class="column" draggable="true"><header>Abracadabra
>>>>>>>> </header></div> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       <div class="column" draggable="true"><header>B</header></div> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       <div class="column" draggable="true"><header>C</header></div> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     </div>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  <div id="columns">
>>>>>>>>      <basics-poly>Abracadabra</basics-poly>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      <basics-poly>B</basics-poly>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      <basics-poly>C</basics-poly>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  </div>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> <polymer-element name="basics-poly">
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   <template>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     <style>
>>>>>>>>        ...
>>>>>>>>     </style>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     <div id="column" class="column" draggable="true"> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       <header><content></content></header> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     </div> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   </template> 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   ... 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> </polymer-element>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the original version the following was needed to stop text 
>>>>>>>> fields etc from being selectable 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [draggable] {
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   -moz-user-select: none;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   -khtml-user-select: none;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   -webkit-user-select: none;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   user-select: none;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can't find the equivalent for polymer / web components. My first 
>>>>>>>> attempt was 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [draggable] /deep/ *{ 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And based on advice from SO (http://stackoverflow.com/ques
>>>>>>>> tions/26271903/preventing-the-contents-of-draggable-polymer-
>>>>>>>> elements-from-being-selectable?noredirect=1#comment41226052_
>>>>>>>> 26271903) I've tried
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [draggable], [draggable] /deep/ *, [draggable]::content *, [
>>>>>>>> draggable]::content /deep/ * {
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've tried many other variants too but nothing works
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What should I set the selector to in this case?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW full source for this example is https://bitbucket.org/ander
>>>>>>>> smholmgren/ah_polymer_stuff/src/7f88d253fe98428e280c1fa4aceada
>>>>>>>> 1792a686e1/test/demo/?at=master
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - index.html is non polymer and works
>>>>>>>>    - index_poly.html is the polymer version that doesn't work 
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anders
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