I should make clear in the post that u...@example.com is the IMAP mailbox name 
and that m...@example.com is a virtual alias.  This machine hosts about 8 
domains and has, I think, three mailboxes. I am the sole user of the email 
system.

On 11/28/2016 at 11:58 AM, rich.gre...@hushmail.com wrote:
>
>Okay, I am really curious how this works then.  Good catch on the 
>'www' test.  I winged it without reading the manpage.  I've never 
>known a good starting point for learning DNS, so that is 
>definitely a weak point.  So, now that the DNS is out of the way.  
>I'm going to dig deeper here.
>
>When I try to send a message to myself using Thunderbird, 
>m...@example.com, I get this
>
>Sending of the message failed.
>The message could not be sent using Outgoing server (SMTP) 
>example.com for an unknown reason. Please verify that your 
>Outgoing server (SMTP) settings are correct and try again.
>
>Then about half a second later, a popup window appears titled 'Add 
>security exception' that begins "You are about to override how 
>Thunderbird identifies this site".  I click on 'Get Certificate', 
>but it doesn't really do anything.
>
>So I look in the logs:
>
>mail.log
>
>Nov 28 18:34:56 example dovecot: imap-login: Login: 
>user=<u...@example.com>, method=PLAIN, rip=69.179.xxx.yyy, 
>lip=192.168.178.31, mpid=1291, TLS, session=<gfbp419CFsRFs3SF>
>Nov 28 18:35:14 example postfix/smtpd[1293]: connect from 69-179-
>xxx-yyy.dyn.centurytel.net[69.179.xxx.yyy]
>Nov 28 18:35:16 example postfix/smtpd[1293]: warning: TLS library 
>problem: error:14094418:SSL routines:ssl3_read_bytes:tlsv1 alert 
>unknown ca:s3_pkt.c:1472:SSL alert number 48:
>Nov 28 18:35:16 example postfix/smtpd[1293]: lost connection after 
>STARTTLS from 69-179-xxx-yyy.dyn.centurytel.net[69.179.xxx.yyy]
>Nov 28 18:35:16 example postfix/smtpd[1293]: disconnect from 69-
>179-xxx-yyy.dyn.centurytel.net[69.179.xxx.yyy] ehlo=1 starttls=1 
>commands=2
>
>I have no idea what this means.  
>
>The only other log file with a recent entry would be the auth.log 
>which seems to only detail the 20 or so attempts of SSH login each 
>minute from across the world, which is normal for anybody with a 
>website.
>
>Rick
>
>On 11/28/2016 at 11:12 AM, "Noel Jones" <njo...@megan.vbhcs.org> 
>wrote:
>>
>>On 11/28/2016 9:07 AM, rich.gre...@hushmail.com wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> First, email has been working fine on this server for past 
>>several months while using the Squirrelmail web client located on 
>>the same server.  I am needing an alternative method to access 
>>mail services and decided, on a whim, to try Thunderbird.  
>>Thunderbird interacted with the Dovecot IMAP server just fine, 
>but 
>>when I tried to test sending mail over SMTP, it failed. I wish 
>the 
>>error they gave me was more verbose, but it wasn't.  So I decided 
>>to test things in more detail.
>>> 
>>> I decided that, since SMTP is a plain-text protocol, I should 
>be 
>>able to interact via telnet.  Searching on this idea, I found a 
>>really interesting webpage
>>> 
>>> https://www.port25.com/how-to-check-an-smtp-connection-with-a-
>>manual-telnet-session-2/
>>> 
>>> There was something strange with the MX record.  I modified the 
>>URL, of course.
>>> 
>>> nslookup -type=mx example.com
>>> Server:             8.8.8.8
>>> Address:    8.8.8.8#53
>>> 
>>> Non-authoritative answer:
>>> example.com mail exchanger = 10 mail.example.com.
>>> 
>>> Authoritative answers can be found from:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> and that was it.
>>
>>Nothing wrong here, MX records don't contain an IP.  You can 
>>compare
>>with -type=mx gmail.com.
>>
>>
>>> 
>>> I decided to perform the same test, but pull the www record and 
>>with that I actually got an IP address.
>>> 
>>> nslookup -type=www example.com
>>> unknown query type: www
>>> Server:             8.8.8.8
>>> Address:    8.8.8.8#53
>>> 
>>> Non-authoritative answer:
>>> Name:       example.com
>>> Address: 87.xxx.yyy.zzz
>>> 
>>
>>There is no type=www.  This test is broken.
>>
>>
>>http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html
>>
>>If you show postfix logs and describe the actual error you're
>>getting, maybe someone can help.
>>http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html#mail
>>
>>
>>  -- Noel Jones

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