thank you, Greg, yes I meant to Analyze, not Vacuum..

SO.. it turns out that about half of my metros cause this topology execption, and the other half dont ? Also, 10 seconds is at the low end for the times... 20,30 seconds happens all the time, with or without an index on metro. The last one I tried before writing took just over 60 seconds..

lastly, the SetSRID() is only necessary on the MULTIPOLYGONS, the POINTS will work without it

Is this all that uncommon, or hard, or buggy
???

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