thank you, Per-Olof, what you say sounds reasonable

I think some of my troubles mentioned here, the Topological Exception/CRASH might have to do with MULTIPOLYGON that fails IsValid() in PostGIS, but are ok in other systems..

  Self Intersection at or near Point xxx  for a dozen or so

So I got rid of those, so far, I have no crashes
but the searches are slower than ever

yes, I obviously need to find ways to make use of bounding box, although what I really want are the POLY contents

ps -It is easy to say 'read the list' , but the list is years long... I have read dozens of pages of posts before I started this thread.. so believe me that i am not just complaining.. I am reading, studying, and complaining ;-)

the combination of crash and long queries, and being new to this on my own, makes for very frustrating entrance to the black magic of PostGIS !!

all for now  -Brian

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