Hi,

On Tue, Nov 04, 2008 at 01:04:24PM -0800, Kok, Auke wrote:
> Andreas, please take your rants somewhere else. This is not a discussion 
> forum on
> how bad X or Y is, nor is it a place to dump grief.

Sorry, I've had way too many software-related things fail on me (and
rest assured: not only me!) during the last two weeks to keep any
sizeable tolerance level currently.
(e.g. some assorted 5 or 6 different annoying CUPS failures - leaving me
almost entirely printing-capability-less until I managed to figure out
one golden combo - and 4 to 5 different annoying kernel failures
and regressions).

> I know for a fact that the Xfce team is extremely responsive to bugreports of
> substance, and have worked closely with them to improve things where possible.

Well, then they might be better than icewm (coincidentally that's the icewm
I mentioned before, hohumm...) which I provided a wakeup patch tracker item
for which never received any response.
AFAIR the initial bloat situation of icewm was a lot better than with xfce
anyway, though...

> If you have a problem with a certain application, please feel free to drop a 
> line
> on this forum, but also report it to the maintainers of that application. Try
> 'bugzilla.xfce.org'. I know for a fact that the Xfce4 team would seriously 
> look
> into the issue you describe above here.

There _are_ existing bug reports about these and similar things (I
haven't looked at whether they're being worked at or not though).

Will keep my ramblings to myself now,

Andreas Mohr

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