> >  Anyway, you need to
> > find out (from your isp) which server to telnet to, and you log in via
> > command line, and they need to have pine or elm available to run from that
> > server (just type pine or elm at the prompt, after you finish logging on).
> 
> Just a note...very, very few ISP's offer telnet access anymore. I know 
> we cut our users off a few years back; one account (out of some 300 at 
> the time, we have nearly 700 now) got got hacked or given out (we were 
> never able to determine which) and we proceeded to get rather nastily 
> compromised.

If I may say (nothing here stated against Mr. Johnson or his IT group), a lot
of ISPs have it in their head that shells are inherently insecure based on
events like these, whereas an unprotected SLIP/PPP dialup can be equally
damaging and give hackers a difficult-to-trace entry point to other systems,
just like a shell prompt.

For a lot of older systems, a shell account is much more computationally
economical and efficient than SLIP or PPP.

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