Cameron Kaiser wrote:

> If I may say (nothing here stated against Mr. Johnson or his IT group), a lot
> of ISPs have it in their head that shells are inherently insecure based on
> events like these, whereas an unprotected SLIP/PPP dialup can be equally
> damaging and give hackers a difficult-to-trace entry point to other systems,
> just like a shell prompt.

Shell accounts are not inherently insecure. I never said that and any 
ISP that says that to you is either ignorant, lying, or (moist likely) 
simplifying things for their (largely non-technical ) users.

However, shell accounts in the hands of 400-700 non-professionals who 
then set their passwords to 'malibu' because "...that's the name of my 
dog, and no one would think of naming their dog 'Malibu'"...is *another* 
entire kettle of fish.

And actually, if someone uses our dial-in terminal server to attack 
someone, we know 'who' (as in the user that authenticated to the server) 
was using which line when, and the phone co will give us the phone 
number involved.

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs




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