At 8:25 AM -0500 1/17/03, Tom Roth wrote:

>DNS IP numbers should be in the TCP/IP control panel.  Typically they are
>automatically assigned along with your IP number when your dial in.  Since
>you're running an older OS I'm not sure exactly what it looks like.  It's been
>a few years since I was using that old of an OS with dial-up.  In the newer
>OSs you can manually enter the DNS IP numbers even if your own IP number is
>being automatically assigned by the PPP dial-up server.
>
>As far as pinging goes, look for a program called MacPing or WhatRoute.  If
>you can ping the IP number but not the name then it's a DNS problem.  For
>example, here I've fired up MacPing and entered www.apple.com.  It resolved to
>IP number 17.112.152.32.  That's what the DNS does.  It converted the name to
>the IP number.  BTW, the 152.11.243.108 is my Mac's IP number but don't try
>pining that as I'm behind a firewall and it won't get through.
>
>Source: [152.11.243.108] --> Destination: www.apple.com [17.112.152.32]
>RESULT     PKT#     TIME     LENGTH
>success      1        5         56
>success      2        5         56
>success      3        5         56
>success      4        5         56
>success      5        5         56
>Packets out/in/bad/%loss = 5/5/0/0
>Round Trip Time (Ticks) min/avg/max = 5/5/5
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>Now I ping the IP number of www.apple.com.
>
>
>Source: [152.11.243.108] --> Destination: [17.112.152.32]
>RESULT     PKT#     TIME     LENGTH
>success      1        6         56
>success      2        5         56
>success      3        5         56
>success      4        5         56
>success      5        5         56
>Packets out/in/bad/%loss = 5/5/0/0
>Round Trip Time (Ticks) min/avg/max = 5/5/6
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>That too works.  I'm guessing that in your case when you ping apple's IP
>number it will work but when you ping www.apple.com it won't because your DNS
>is not working.  It's not able to resolve what www.apple.com is.  If you use
>WhatRoute you'll have even more options to play with including a trace route,
>query, and whois functions.  But MacPing is simple and quick.  I can email it
>to you if you don't already have it or can't locate it.  It's a very small
>program.

Good stuff Tom. I easily found MacPing here:
<http://www.dartware.com/macping/demoform.html> and will check it out when
I connect with a PowerBook later. 

With the Open Transport 1.1.2, OT PPP 1.0 setup on OS 7.x - 8.1, The PPP
panel displays the address you are connected to, pretty much the same as
Remote Access on later systems. I collected several of these when connected
with the G3. Most only had different last numbers. I entered them in the
Name Server Addr. field of the TCP/IP panel. Sometimes Remote Access
displays one of the addresses, sometimes a different one. The same is true
of the PPP panel on the earlier systems. It seems to ignore the specified
addresses. Since connecting with the Mac Plus and G3 was not a problem, I
never gave it another thought until the PowerBooks wouldn't budge from the
ISPs server.

It's a shame I can't install EZRemote on the OS 8.1 PowerBooks. It seems
compatible with any ISP, as does ConfigPPP 2.0.1, PPP 2.0.1 and TCP/IP
2.0.6 for the System 6 machines. I have asked the ISP for the correct
addresses or if they can verify the ones I have. I may or may not hear from
them but hey, I'm learning new stuff here! Thanks.

Hardy Menagh, Hardsdisk Ltd., a branch of the Abandoned Computer Shelter.
Sponsored by jmug.org. <http://www.mac-group.org/jmug/acs.html> for a
branch near you.  + E-mailed from a Macintosh Plus. +  Sometimes less
really is more.


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