>but it did take a long time to low level 40 gb. very long in fact.
>kenta

Well, all I could think of is this:  maybe drive setup is testing the 
drive (same as would happen when you choose "test drive" from the 
menu).  It's looking for bad blocks.  Perhaps you're lucky and it has 
never found any, so it hasn't tried to actually change the physical 
sectors.  Or, maybe it does find bad blocks, tries to map them out, 
fails, doesn't trow up an error message, and continues to the next 
task.

I don't know why it does this.  All I know is that you've gotten 
lucky and haven't toasted your hard drive yet.  I don't know the 
inner workings of Drive Setup, so it may actually be testing your 
hard drive, but not actually finishing the LLF.

All I know is that if it does manage to map out bad blocks or change 
the physical setup of the hard disk, then your disk is toast.  IDE 
hard drives, as I've mentioned before, cannot handle it when a 3rd 
party tool screws with it's physical formatting.  (Some OEMs have 
tools to do this - Maxtor, for instance, has a PC tool which _does_ 
LLF a Maxtor hard drive.  They can do this because they know how 
their hard drives work.  Apple cannot do this.)

>but the lowlevelformat filesystem is the same ??
>k

In a manner of speaking, but it's not a file system.  And it's not 
the same across all hard drives.  That's why most disk utilities 
screw the pooch when they try to LLF an IDE hard drive.  Hard drives 
have certain sections reserved for specific data (where to find data 
on the hard drive, how many files are on the hard drive, where to 
find the system files on the hard drive in order to boot up, where to 
find 'drivers' for the hard drive itself, how many partitions there 
are on the hard drive and what logical format they are, and 
information about the physical structure of the hard drive, among 
other things).  This information is not uniform across all hard 
drives and operating systems, but it generally fits a model like I've 
just described.

Loving our 40+" of snow,
Drew


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