I've been following this thread a bit, and I have a suggestion for anyone who is financially strapped and wants a newer computer/powerbook etc. Being the local bargain expert here are my suggestions :

1. Craigslist. Check it out. There is one list in virtually every city in NA and major cities all across the world. Personally, I just picked up a nice Toshiba laptop with a DVD drive that fills my wireless laptop needs perfectly for 100 bucks CDN. If you are in the states, check out other cities besides your own and ask the seller if shipping could be arranged. If you are in the San Fran (where Craig started) or New York areas, you should have tons of offerings to sort through. Check the electronic section as well as the computer section for leads, some people don't know what they have (although this almost never applies to Mac stuff, unfortunately.)

2. Toronto has a Buy and Sell rag which put me onto a 3400c for 50 bucks CDN. Most cities and areas have something similar but with a different name. Ads are free, sometimes there is a purchase price for the newspaper, sometimes not. I've sold cars and bought many Macs and had loads of fun reading through the buy and sell. It's amazing what people have for sale.

3. There are alternatives to e bay, although without the safety. Some universities have clearance sites where computers, electronic equipment and anything else you can think of are offered for auction. There is no online buying but you can certainly check out the items online and head off to the university/college later to do the deal. Some of the items offered boggle the mind.

4. Most universities have book shops which sell either computers or parts for pretty good deals. Students, always strapped for cash, often sell their equipment on BBs at the university or through the local newspapers.

5. http: //www. fatfingers.co.uk/ You never know what you'll find. (delete the spaces when you copy and paste the link.)

6. If you aren't stuck on Mac, and I think most of us are, try the online liquidators or the major online manufacturers for their clearance sites. Sometimes, not too often though, these sites offer tremendous deals on new or almost new laptops. Some are off lease, some are 'refurbished' but there are warranties on all of them. Dell just offered a complete new laptop for 599 CDN with free shipping in their ten days of savings special, for example.

7. Don't explode or yell at me for this one but, from everything I have heard it is a real deal. The online offerings of 'free' electronic products if you fulfill a certain number of obligations and refer a certain number of friends/relatives/etc. to subscriptions or movie deals. Kevin Rose on screensavers talks about it and the folks at hackaday.com say it works. Hackaday is anti-establishment to the extreme so if it works for them, it must be real. Not too much offered up here but in the States you can go wild! Worth a shot, anyway.

8. Living in a major city has its advantages and one of them is thrift stores. There are dozens in Toronto, from Sally Ann to Value Village. I'm a regular at many sometimes you luck out. Garage sales too but the hit and miss ratio there is much greater.

I've been unemployed for a year and a half and the only way I get to spend money on anything is by squeezing the nickel. Works for me. Hope this helps someone.

BM





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