I finally, after several months delay, sat down to try and upgrade the OS on
my PTP. I was hopeful that I got the right "grey" cd for installing OS9. I
lauched the install program from my 7.5 desktop and got a message that said
something like "your computer is not supported". Does this mean it is
looking for an ID and won't install if it is not satisfied? Is there a hack
I can use? If not, what disk do I need to use on this PTP? If I buy a retail
box OS9 install disk will it work?

On another note, I was successful in getting the ethernet working and I am
able to surf the web. I downloaded a version of Netscape (4?) that is more
updated than the IE 3.0 that was already on the system. When I installed it
I got an error message that said I needed OS 7.6 (I only have 7.5.3) but I
clicked through and it insalled. It has a quirk where it doesn't always
finish pages but otherwise I can move around the net okay.

I am trying to find a better browser for use with this 7.5.3 system until I
can figure out how to get OS 9 running. I thought I saw that Firefox would
work but haven't been able to find a download yet. I'll try again tomorrow.

The saga continues...

Sean Kennedy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Krow Magnum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Power Computing List" <powercomputing@mail.maclaunch.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: Upgrade to OS9.1 on PTP225


> On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:31:30 -0500, Sean Kennedy
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Replies follow
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Krow Magnum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Power Computing List" <powercomputing@mail.maclaunch.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:24 AM
> > Subject: Re: Upgrade to OS9.1 on PTP225
> >
> >
> > > The grey iMac OS 9.1 install CD should work fine. I used mine on my
> > > PTPro as well as earler PPC's. I know somebody else with the same CD
> > > and his works on anything that you can put OS 9.1 on also so that
> > > shouldn't be the problem. Booting with the "C" key never worked on my
> > > PTPro with the non-Apple CD-ROMs.
> >
> > Yes, it is the iMac grey CD. It sounds like it is the same one you have
had
> > success with. I bought it on eBay for about $20.
> >
> > >
> > > It should be re-formatted anyway becasue System 7 is HFS and OS 8.1
> > > and later uses HFS+.
> > >
> > Will it matter if I use HFS instead of HFS+?
>
> OS 8.1 and later uses a files system of HFS+ but I goofed and was
> thinking you only had one drive attached. The installer should do that
> if needed.
>
> >
> > > Good idea for transfering some apps but I never liked FWB's CD-ROM
> > > Tools and the old Apple driver works perfectly so you can avoid FWB.
> > >
> > > There is an old Apple CD-ROM driver from System 7 that recognizes most
> > > CD-ROMs. Apple eliminated compatibility with non-Apple branded drives
> > > in OS 8 and after.
> > > I can email the driver or find a link to it if you need it. Avoid
> > > using FWB's CD-ROM Toolkit if at all possible. FWB Hard Disk Toolkit
> > > is ok and may be needed to initialize and format the hard drive. The
> > > Apple Drive SetupTools on the OS 9.1 install CD may not recognize your
> > > hard drive. If that is a problem we can deal with that easily.
> > >
> > I think you already e-mailed that utility to me. So far I haven't been
able
> > to move it properly from the PC to the Mac. Do I need that done before I
> > install OS 9? If I boot from the OS9 CD will the installer use the newly
> > formatted hard disk without having a third party driver? The hard drive
was
> > already formatted in OS7.5.3 using FWB. How do I force the new system
> > installer to use a third party driver if booting from CD? Isn't the
system
> > on the CD using a driver that isn't compatible with the PTP machines?
>
> You can only add the driver after installing OS 9.1 because before
> installing the OS there is nowhere to put the driver. It has to go
> into the system folder.
>
> The CD's CD driver is compatible but it won't put a compatible CD
> driver in the System folder when the new OS is installed. It's funny
> that way. You can drag the FWB CD extension and control panel over
> from the old System 7 to use the CD after installation is done.
>
> Anything you download to a Windoze machine you need to keep as a
> stuffed(compressed) file and do not let Windoze decompress it or it
> gets screwed up and won't work when you copy it to the Mac.
>
> >
> > >
> > > Step by step:
> > >
> > > Boot with the CD using the 4 finger salute
> > > (command-option-shift-delete) and keep your fingers crossed......
> > >
> > > When it's finished booting open the Utilities Folder on the CD. Open
> > > the Drive Setup application, select your hard drive and hit the
> > > initialize button. Warning this will erase everything on the drive. If
> > > your hard driive shows as "unsupported" you will need a 3rd party app
> > > like the FWB that came with the PowerComputing machines to format and
> > > add drivers. Email me if that's a problem.
> >
> > I already formatted the drive with OS 7.5.3. Does it ned to be
reformatted
> > with OS 9.1?
>
> Yes I would initialize it with the OS 9.1 disk utility. I don't think
> you have a choice, the installer will tell you what to do.
>
> >
> > >
> > > Now just open the Mac OS installer on the CD and follow the
> > > instructions. You will probably get a warning that the Apple Hard Disk
> > > drivers cannot be updated, just click ok or continue and don't worry
> > > about it. That is because your hard drive was not in an Apple computer
> > > but a clone. It's reading the FWB hard disk drivers but that's not a
> > > problem.
> > >
> > > Follow all the instructions and in about 15-20 minutes you'll have OS
> > > 9.1 running.
> > >
> > > Good Luck,
> > >
> > > Ron
> >
> > Okay, thanks Ron. Now I have two pssibilites. One, boot from original HD
> > with OS 7.5.3 and then launch the installer, or two, boot from the new
OS
> > 9.1 CD with the four fingered solute. Does it matter which one I choose?
>
> Sorry I was still thinking of a one srive set-up. It doesn't matter,
> you can do either method.
> I always boot from the CD to install. The nice part of using a Mac is
> if your not sure just click on it and see what happens. It's a lot
> harder to screw up a Mac OS install than a Windoze one.
>
> >
> > Sean
> >
>
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