Guys, PCE counting has little to do with risk. It involves worker and public 
confidence that we (the professional nuclear community) will keep our 
radioactivity (however small) where is supposed to be.

End of sermon




From: Thomas J Vandermey [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 11:14 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Powernet: how are PCE's classified?

I agree with you that shoe contaminations should not be counted the same way as 
skin contaminations, but I don't think the bulk of the industry does it this 
way.  I thought that most plants count any frisker reading on skin or any 
clothing surface, including the bottoms of shoes, equal to or greater than 100 
ccpm by frisker, as a reportable PCE.

My own modest proposal for defining reportable PCEs is: 1000 ccpm on shoes, 300 
ccpm on any other clothing, and 100 ccpm on skin.

Tom VanderMey, CHP
Principal Radiological Engineer
DTE Energy, Fermi 2
734-586-1539

My interpretation of this section is that if I get 300 ncpm on the bottom of a 
shoe but have a <100 ncpm measurement from inside the shoe, I track the PCE but 
do not count it as a "reportable" Level 1 PCE, since the reportable PCEs on 
clothing, as stated in the EPRI guidance, are based on the measured value 
"inside" the clothing, including shoes, gloves, etc.

If you are not using this guidance you may be over-reporting the number of PCEs 
that you have



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To: <[email protected]>
From: "Hansen, Curtis" <[email protected]>
Sent by: [email protected]
Date: 12/09/2010 11:14AM
Subject: RE: Powernet: how are PCE's classified?

FYI - many of you may be using the following methodology from EPRI "Guidelines 
for Industry Response to Personnel Contaminations, Revision 1"- maybe not

page 2-1 states in part: (Bold font inserted by me for emphasis)

2
ACTION LEVELS AND RESPONSES

Each individual nuclear utility has its own program that sets a threshold, 
typically equivalent to less than 100 ncpm as measured by a standard pancake 
Geiger-Müller (GM) detector, below which individuals are released from the 
radiologically controlled area.

The following action level guidelines have been developed for the purpose of 
establishing standardized actions to be taken in response to instances of 
personnel contamination above this threshold.

The determination of the EPRI PCE level classification should be based on a 
frisker reading of the skin or the highest reading on clothing.

For skin contaminations, a frisker reading should be the maximum reading with 
the frisker held approximately ½ inch away from the affected skin.

For clothing, the frisker reading should be on the inside of the clothing with 
the detector faced away from the skin.

Additional measurements on clothing may be taken, for example, to determine if 
contamination exists on the bottom of a shoe. The measurement on the bottom of 
the shoe may be of interest from a material control perspective while the 
inside clothing measurement will be more appropriate for assessing a skin dose.

The actions to be completed at each level of contamination are triggered by the 
reading on a frisker or personnel contamination monitor.

For quick reference, a summary of these action levels and responses are 
included in Appendix C.

My interpretation of this section is that if I get 300 ncpm on the bottom of a 
shoe but have a <100 ncpm measurement from inside the shoe, I track the PCE but 
do not count it as a "reportable" Level 1 PCE, since the reportable PCEs on 
clothing, as stated in the EPRI guidance, are based on the measured value 
"inside" the clothing, including shoes, gloves, etc.

If you are not using this guidance you may be over-reporting the number of PCEs 
that you have

Curt Hansen
DCPP Ex Alara Supervisor

________________________________
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Thomas J Vandermey
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 5:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Powernet: how are PCE's classified?


Fermi response:
Is contamination on any type of clothing/coverall counted as a
PCE?  yes

Is contamination on scrubs counted as a PCE?  yes

Are all instances tracked and recorded as a PCE?  yes, but only equal to or 
greater than 100 ccpm are reportable

What instances of contamination on a person or clothing would not
qualify as a PCE?  noble gases, radon progeny, medical, F-18--all not 
reportable and maybe not even recordable

Thanks for your insight

Sasha Albisharat
Bruce A Health Physicist
Ph: 519-361-2673 ext. 13959
pager: 519-370-3194

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