Ada benernya jg fakta-fakta ini, tapi ini tidak dapat dijadikan 
pembenaran AS menyerang Irak. Itulah kelihaian Amerika menggunakan 
situasi dan kesempatan. Apakah untuk pemerintahan Amrik ini betul 
utk 'freedom' suatu negara lain? bukan ada bisnis lain?

Maukah  mereka berperang demi 'freedom' suatu negara lain tanpa 
mengambil keuntungan apa-apa?

Jelas kalau Kuwait, pemerintahan Kuwait minta tolong ke AS, tapi 
Irak? Amerika harus buat dalih senjata kimia yang ternyata bullshit 
utk bisa menyerang Irak? Kalau memang utk freedom, kenapa harus 
tipu2 buat alibi?

Kalau Amrik hanya mau membunuh Saddam (yg dianggap sbg teroris) 
kenapa engga kirim aja James Bondnya Amrik ke Iraq?

Hanya saja (mungkin) diluar 'dugaan' Amrik adalah adanya 'teroris' 
yang berjanji akan membuat Iraq menjadi spt Vietnam.

Saya kira sebagian besar rakyat Irak memang tidak menyukai Saddam 
yang otoriter, tapi mereka juga tidak menyukai kalau negaranya 
dijajah, apalagi sama Amerika yang dianggap kafir...




--- In ppiindia@yahoogroups.com, Carla Annamarie 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> hard Facts :
> 1. it seems ppl nearly forgot the saddam invasion to kuwait in 
1991, as i
> recalled kuwait government and its ppl asked for US assistance, 
and it was
> in TV and  broadcasted in worldwide.., even many ppl accused for 
US hidden
> agenda for oil..but untill now we re fully aware that most country 
that
> have an oil agreement in kuwait re european countries not US..
> and we know that ppl of kuwait lives..and not under rezime or
> persecution..., i wonder if US didnt take the action of saving 
kuwait, by
> then perhaps saddam not only invaded kuwait but also all arabs 
nation..
>  i think before US freed iraq from saddam rezime, the ppl of iraq 
is under
> thread, persecution, massacres, and killings..
> and perhaps if there're facts no suicide bombs when saddam was 
still in
> charge, the answer for simple..the suicide killings wont works for
> saddam.., suicide bombs wont stop him.., besides he and his 
intelligent
> already prevent that from happenings.
> 2. the massacre of women and children.., as i recalled most 
terrorist take
> advantage of women and children as a living shield, if the 
soldiers found
> out their place of hiding or targetting their place, they oftens 
used women
> and children as a divertion or shield, bcs they know that US 
soldiers wont
> fired a shot in every circumstances especially  if there're any 
civilians
> in combat...but the terrorist knew that so they use that kinda low
> tactics.., bcs for terrorist everything is dispenseable  for their 
cause..
> 3. logika invasi US, i think for iraqi ppl is not an invasion but 
is
> freedom..if u could asked all the ppl of iraq and kurdi after their
> liberation from saddam..u could see the gratefulnes in their 
eyes..but now
> after many confrontation from the terrorist perhaps from ppl that 
still
> loyal to saddam and more over there's dispute between internal 
islamic
> group in iraq has bcs the main probs in iraq...
> 
> i think if we look at the basic issue here, that each of us have a
> different view regarding the subject..war is not the answer still 
the
> casualties always the innocent ppl.., freedom takes sacrificies 
and courage
> to sacrifies...perhaps from all this time since WW II, korean War, 
Vietnam
> War, Cold War, kuwait War, Bosnia-Serbia War, and now Iraq War, 
american
> always enter the wrong war for the sake of freedom..., and it's 
not for the
> sake of its own ppl.."american ppl" but for the freedom of 
others...,
> ironically funny but it's the hard facts...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> hard facts:
> 
> 1. kasus bom bunuh diri tidak pernah sekalipun terjadi
> sebelum invasi AS ke Irak.
> 
> 2. pembunuhan massal (massacre)--yg berarti termasuk
> wanita dan anak2-- yg dilakukan AS di fallujah
> terutama, dan di tempat lain jauh lebih besar.
> 
> 3. logika invasi AS terbukti berubah2; dari WMD,
> toppling saddam dan demokratisasi. semua berdasar
> moralitas dan peradaban which again contrary to the
> fact.
> 
> 4. saddam melakukan penjagalan juga pada masa dia
> berkuasa yg dikutuk dunia; kecuali AS yg memanfaatkan
> Saddam untuk menyerang iran.
> 
> bung kim hook, you cannot be a good analyst if u just
> use half of ur brain to catch half of the truth.
> 
> cheers up,
> 
> 
> --- farid bajber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------
> 
> salah satu kebodohan yang tidak bisa dimaafkan adalah
> kesalahan fatal generalisasi. semakin spesifik data,
> semakin akurat penelitian, semakin tinggi nilai
> keilmuannya. Posting kedua kelihatannya mulai sadar:
> "Zarkawi dan anggota penteror yang datang dari luar
> Irak" (lebih spesifik) namun masih belum jelas...tahu
> ngak apa yang diomongin...
> orang yang paling bodoh adalah yang tidak tahu apa
> yang diomongin.....sama saja dengan angin busuk....
> 
> FB
> Di Irak Selatan
> 
> 
> 
> kim3hook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Tidak usah bertele-tele seperti itu menanyakan apa itu
> penteror
> di Irak. Karena semua orang yang rajin membaca berita
> yang
> berkisar di Irak, pasti akan tau siapa mereka-mereka
> itu. Karena
> hampir setiap kejadian, selalu mereka akui melalui
> corong Al Jazira.
> 
> 
> 
> Faruq Saniyasnain
> (Manchester)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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