Embargo militer USA sama dampaknya bagi Indonesia,dengan tak membeli 
apel Amerika bagi Amerika? 

Saya yakin USA tahu Indonesia tak mencintai mereka, anda yang hidup 
dibidang journalisme tahu dong, bahwa ini bagi pertimbangan 
strategis militeris, politis USA tak berarti apa apa?

Bung, think about it..






--- In [email protected], Satrio Arismunandar 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Bung, langkah politik itu perlu untuk menunjukkan
> sikap politik, tapi tidak berarti kita jadi bodoh dan
> tolol.
> 
> Memprotes AS bisa dengan langkah simbolis. Misalnya,
> membatasi penggunaan SEBAGIAN produk Amerika. Tapi
> produk yang memang mutlak kita butuhkan, dan kita tak
> punya alternatif, ya jangan dong. Hanya orang
> Indonesia goblok yang di zaman informasi ini menolak
> pakai komputer, hanya karena programnya Windows dan
> CPU yang buatan Amerika.
> 
> Amerika pun akan tahu, pembatasan penggunaan produk
> Amerika itu langkah simbolis. Dalam hubungan
> diplomatik itu biasa. Signal itu artinya: "Indonesia
> tidak suka dengan sikap AS dan Israel, tetapi
> Indonesia tak mau bermusuhan dengan AS." 
> 
> Persis yang AS lakukan pada Indonesia. Embargo militer
> sebagian terhadap TNI. Spare parts untuk F-16 ditahan.
> Tapi spare parts untuk pesawat Hercules (pesawat
> angkut, bukan pesawat tempur) boleh dijual, nggak
> masalah. AS cuma mau bilang: "TNI masih perlu
> mereformasi diri. Tapi kami ingin tetap berteman
> dengan TNI."
> 
> Itu namanya berpolitik, tetapi pakai otak. Komputer
> tetap dipakai, tetapi kita tak perlu apel Amerika.
> Jadi kita bisa menolak apel Amerika. Toh banyak
> alternatif apel dari Cina, atau Malang.
> 
> Masa soal begitu saja harus dijelaskan panjang lebar
> begini.... (saya tadinya malas komentar. Tetapi karena
> banyak komentar yang muncul pakai pendekatan
> nihilistik nan ajaib, terpaksa ya saya omong begini).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- RM Danardono HADINOTO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Sesuai bung Ahmad ini, persediaan valas pemerintah
> > dalam uang barat, 
> > dari US$, Euro, Pound sampai Yen kita bagi bagikan
> > pada umat miskin. 
> > Juga semua benda milik pemerintah buatan AS
> > hadiahkan pada rumah 
> > jompo, dari computer sampai pesawat terbang, kapal
> > dan kendaraan.
> > 
> > Lalu...semua jalan kaki..masak? pakai arang dan
> > anglo..menulis? 
> > pakai arang..bank bank? ditutup, uang disimpan di
> > karung guni..
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], Satrio Arismunandar
> > 
> > <satrioarismunandar@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Nggak pas, Bung. Rakyat jajahan ya nggak punya
> > > pilihan.... Kasih merdeka dulu dong! 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Ambon <sea@> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Bagaimana dengan dollar? Palestina itu pakai
> > mata
> > > > uang Israel yang namanya 
> > > > Sekel.
> > > > 
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Al-Badruuni Enterprise"
> > > > <al_badruuni@>
> > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 11:36 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [ppiindia] Starbucks = Pendukung
> > > > Militer Israel ?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Ya,gue setuju.....STOP produk AS dan Israel.....
> > > > 
> > > > Mhoel <mulyadi@> wrote:
> > > > Pak Andreas juga perlu diinspirasi dari bangsa
> > > > Korea...
> > > > Carrefour aja di Korea bisa keok kok....
> > > > 
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Satrio Arismunandar"
> > > > <satrioarismunandar@>
> > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:53 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [ppiindia] Starbucks = Pendukung
> > > > Militer Israel ?
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, come oonnnnn...... Your explanation is a
> > kind
> > > > of
> > > > > exagerating many things....
> > > > >
> > > > > People still can live happily ever after
> > without
> > > > > McDonald, Budweisser, etc.... And before 1948,
> > > > there
> > > > > was no Israel....
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, one more thing. As a vegetarian, I don't
> > need
> > > > any
> > > > > chicken and I still have a life....
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- ANDREAS MIHARDJA <mihardja@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Its your choice to boycot a company or an
> > > > > > organisation, although to me it looks more
> > like
> > > > a
> > > > > > peer pressure stupidity.
> > > > > > If you start thinking - boycot this for that
> > -
> > > > > > well youmust stop using products that are
> > from
> > > > any
> > > > > > multi national company. You start stop
> > > > purchasing
> > > > > > products from McDonald till Budweisser or
> > > > anywine
> > > > > > products from any country. You alsmo may
> > stop
> > > > eating
> > > > > > chiken because all the chicks are organized
> > > > through
> > > > > > an international consortium from animal to
> > food
> > > > and
> > > > > > I am sure some of them are jewish or sure
> > > > american.
> > > > > > Also do not take international aid or help
> > it is
> > > > all
> > > > > > tainted with jewish people who are out to
> > > > destroy
> > > > > > the poor people of the world. Deny any
> > foreign
> > > > aid
> > > > > > because the bosse are pro Israel and are
> > mostl;y
> > > > > > zionist from the USA.
> > > > > > Just live like the people of Afghanistan
> > during
> > > > > > the Taliban regime - they also do not except
> > > > foreign
> > > > > > aid besides "jihad" money from antizionist
> > > > > > movements.
> > > > > > Have a life !!
> > > > > > Andreas
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Satrio Arismunandar
> > > > <satrioarismunandar@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Dari aljazeera.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Boycott Israel"
> > > > > > 7/17/2006 1:46:00 AM GMT
> > > > > > Advertisement
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Israel's barbaric policies against
> > Palestinians
> > > > > > prompted worldwide calls to boycott it, its
> > > > products
> > > > > > and all companies, and organisations that
> > > > provide it
> > > > > > with the ability to continue its agression,
> > > > which
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > claimed the lives of many innocent
> > civilians,
> > > > > > including women and children.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And recently Israel stepped up its offensive
> > > > against
> > > > > > the Palestinian people as well as the
> > Lebanese
> > > > > > population, killing scores of innocent
> > civilians
> > > > and
> > > > > > inflicting sever damage on both countries'
> > > > > > infrastructure.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Starbucks, the well known coffee company
> > known
> > > > for
> > > > > > its
> > > > > > pro-Israel stance, announced once
> > contributing
> > > > > > £100,000 to Oxfam's rural development
> > programme
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > East Harare coffee growing region of
> > Ethiopia,
> > > > but
> > > > > > Oxfam, an international organization
> > dedicated
> > > > to
> > > > > > finding long-term solutions to poverty,
> > hunger,
> > > > and
> > > > > > social injustice worldwide, decided to
> > severe
> > > > its
> > > > > > links with Starbucks, the purveyor of the
> > > > world's
> > > > > > finest coffee with 4,709 locations around
> > the
> > > > world.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Starbucks' chair Howard Schultz is an
> > active
> > > > > > Zionist
> > > > > > whose own activities include running
> > propaganda
> > > > > > seminars on behalf of Israel across campuses
> > in
> > > > both
> > > > > > North America and Israel."
> > > > > > Oxfam denied allegations that Muslim groups
> > were
> > > > > > behind its decision to terminate its
> > > > collaboration
> > > > > > with coffee conglomerate Starbucks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In a Financial Times article published on 4
> > > > March
> > > > > > 2005, Oxfam acknowledged that it had
> > "received
> > > > > > criticism and protest letters from Muslim
> > > > > > organisations but said its decision was the
> > > > result
> > 
> === message truncated ===
> 
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