> Uh, I was there last weekend with Martin Evening, Bruce Fraser, Seth Resnick
> & John Paul Caponigro as well as Greg Gorman. It was grand except for one
> thing, Jay wasn't there. So, not sure where that quote came from. . .

Indeed  Jeff I was mistaken, I was referring to another (smaller) event in
Atlanta. Appologies. Fortunately the geographical location did not change
the content , context and meaning of the discussion.

> For the PEI Conference, I did 20x30 prints of both the film & the captures
> on a 7600 Epson. The photographers in the audience were pretty shocked. Not
> so much that digital won, but by how wide a margin digital out preformed
> film and on so many levels.

One question here Jeff,  does comparing printing quality using Epson prints
and printers would relate in exactly the same way when running CMYK
printing, even at the level of Matchprints, or Chromalins?? My question
comes , not for having he slightest doubts about digital getting over film,
but to account on how color gamuts, extended tonal range,etc are very well
represented in the Epson world , a process that may include the profiling of
those printers ,inks and papers for maximum color accuracy, whereas clipping
is known to occur naturally from camera files when jumping into CMYK, since
even basic RGB/CMYK profiles do not catch up with the full color and tonal
values/dinamyc range obtainable in camera.

 It is just great that photographers can obtain great prints, this is, Epson
Prints in their own offices for their portfolio presentations and even for
Gallery exhibits, and I would not hesitate ( just as I don't hesitate today)
to fully replace conventional C-Prints from standard color labs for those
great Epson prints , but going to CMYK is just another story and is the
eventual destination of every conceivable commercial work.
In other words, how can we cope with CMYK conversions when files from
cameras have a wider dinamy range, color and tonal values when  conventional
4 color printing  is still so limited in gamut?? What is the advantage of
having, say 8 stops tonal range when CMYK process would accept just 4?
DO we all have to become CMYK color wizards or formally agree on delivering
RGB files from camera?  What are the options?


  Thanks for your input .

Jorge Parra

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