I am called in occasionally to help mass process (color balance and other basic stuff) files shot by pals shooting with a variety of Canon cameras (not raw images btw).

I don't much like to use my brain when I do this type of psyche deadening task and till now I have just looked the other way when the smart ass embedded data in the images (which describes the orientation of the shot - landscape or portrait format) did its own sweet thing.

Somehow on the few occasions I have done this in the past- although it seemed that the whole process seems to be ill thought out very clunk, I had to bite my lip cause - things just worked out - Stuff such as iview html catalogues thus produced worked ok and I just walked away.

...But the run of illogical good luck had to come to an end and it did yesterday.

It is far too boring to reel out the ways in which the process had now manifest its 'does not work-ness-ness' and spell out how all the various error permutations now present themselves but in brief - opening and saving images in PS can screw up some delicate cosmic balance - - and thereafter the same file can appear concurrently in PS one way up in 2 catalogues of Iview in different ways - in thumbs plus yet differently and - if reopened in one or any of the above - it may no open consistently in the same way every time opened.

It is rather irritating if the image in an html catalogue and jpeg image or thumbnail generated by either of these programs decides to orient itself according to its own rules - it means that one has to run through the entire catalogue and open every single link to find the images that are wrong. If an image appears side ways and yet the the file opens in PS the right way up - what on earth should one do - huh?

In summary - what one sees in any of these programs is not to be relied upon because it may look different in the next program or even the next time you view the file with the same program, Images may need to be opened and worked on in PS at any stage of the process and surely if they appear sideways up when doing that - one should not leave the image that way when saving.

Perhaps someone here understands the hierarchy of overrides on orientation and can explain how it works so this nonsense can be avoided.

I would have thought that every high production shooter would want access to the embedded data and have the ability to switch/ override at will - no less to say that image cataloguing programs would want a built in switch - to observe, ignore, modify or override such data in batch form

I expect a few people have just found some work flow which is consistent and failing anything more enlightening - it would be good to know what they have ended up doing.

As usual - one needs to go on a special course to learn to use the auto-embedded high intelligence, idiot-proofed, non user intervention systems which are making our lives so much easier.

philip chudy

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