Chris writes:

>> However based on my test BestRGB looks to be the best choice for my 1Ds
files. But I am reluctant taking it up as my standard workingspace since its
very 'non standard' and I fear issues when I deliver files. I could remap to
ECI-RGB but I am probably loosing info due rounding errors in the
calculation... <<

Chris, there seems to be a few different issues and concerns here.

I am not really up with all the RAW workflow options, but I presume that you
are doing raw conversions from camera data and or in-converter edits as
well - into a standard file format and ICC colour space. This "rendered"
file is then used as the master image for further work, such as reductions
to a desired print size and output colour mode. Is this correct? You are not
saving the RAW converter settings for each RAW file and using the RAW
converter and RAW image as the master file to produce further required
images for various purposes?

You mention both Adobe CR and the proprietary RAW converter for you camera.
I presume that the later will give you the option of choosing any RGB
profile or perhaps only working space to directly convert into. It is good
to try different spaces, but I would presume that not every image would be
pushing the limits where the wider spaces have their trade off advantage. I
presume that for important images you also try both raw converters to see if
there is an artistic variation you prefer due to the different
interpretations of the same raw data between these two converters.

You should not be concerned with the rest of the world when it comes to your
working space choice - this is an internal decision for you and you alone to
make. You should be very concerned with the choice of space that you use
when handing off ICC tagged RGB files to other parties though.

And converting from capture space to output space is a tricky subject.

It is good to be concerned with performing needless conversions on your
master files, but I would not worry too much about one or two extra
conversions in a dupe that is being handed off for one off use at a certain
size and colour mode.

There are pros/cons with all RGB working spaces. If you choose a large
enough container for your raw data, but never actually shoot images which
benefit from this large container then what is the point? If you do have
true wider gamut hues but your output is a CMYK press then the larger gamut
can introduce problems due to the disparity between the source and
destination gamut. Things are even worse for RGBworking space conversions!
As one does not have a gamut compression ability as in a perceptual render
as in a CMYK conversion - a relative colorimetric conversion is often
performed between one RGB working space to another (usually 'simple' matrix
based profiles). If you have out of gamut tones/hues for the destination
profile, they will be clipped when you convert from the larger RGB to the
smaller RGB space (which may or may not be a bad thing).

This is also true when handing off RGB which is your concern. You don't wish
to distribute a non-standard RGB file, even though having it tagged with an
ICC profile labels the data...it is good insurance to hand off either
ColorMatch RGB/sRGB or Adobe RGB and have it ICC tagged and stated in
folders or file names etc in an attempt to notify those users who ignore ICC
profiles who may use your images.

One advantage of doing mode conversions in Photoshop, is that one can
introduce a "dither" into the conversion which in some cases can make tonal
transitions better than a file which has had a "clean" conversion.

A good link on RGB editing spaces can be found here:

http://www.brucelindbloom.com/WorkingSpaceInfo.html

http://www.brucelindbloom.com/


Stephen Marsh.

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