Good points, thanks.

--- Chet Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> All you really need to do is to get the information
> together in the form 
> of a simple report and give the report to the Board
> of Directors of the 
> non-profit.  Just state the facts of the situation
> (not your 
> interpretations or speculations or opinions about
> it).
> 
> It is the Board of Director's job to oversee the
> public interest.  If 
> they don't, that's their lookout (and source of
> fiscal and personal 
> liability) not yours.
> 
> As a member of a non-profit board of directors, I
> learned that one real 
> good...
> 
> "Outing" the organization or "blowing the whistle"
> to the "feds" without 
> telling the actual people in charge is not very
> kosher and would 
> probably be counter-productive.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> mrgmhale wrote:
> 
> >>If you help conceal this, *you* could be charged
> with complicity.
> >>Non-profits get federal money in the form of being
> tax deductible. If
> >>they waste money, it is federal money being
> wasted.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >Actually, I met with one of my attorneys for the
> very purpose of seeing
> >where I stood with a computer billing audit of a
> publicly traded company,
> >where I was aware of the company knowingly
> misbilling one of my clients, and
> >I was going to "discover" the misbilling during
> said audit.  We are talking
> >over $300k in billing errors I found in total, with
> about $160k of it due to
> >the intentionally ignored misbilling.  My Legal
> Counsel advised I could be
> >deemed a co-conspirator with the computer company
> if I did not divulge my
> >knowledge of the intentionally ignored misbilling
> to my client within a
> >certain period of time (I was well within that time
> period only because I
> >did advise one of the client's Sr Managers of the
> problem shortly after I
> >heard about it from an employee within the
> company).
> >
> >I was quite surprised that by simply being aware of
> the billing error being
> >known and ignored by the computer firm I could be
> held partially responsible
> >for the misbilling and intentional failure to
> report the problem (except I
> >had reported it, nobody acted at that time within
> my client's company).  So,
> >now the position I am taking when being fed
> "confidential information" is I
> >will respect confidential information to the point
> where I am not in legal
> >jeopardy myself.  If I am in harm's way I withhold
> nothing, period.
> >
> >So, I say that with respect to the Presidente's
> scam with his daughter
> >obviously skimming/wasting the Not For Profit's
> operation, gather the
> >supporting evidence and report it.  Those are my
> tax dollars being wasted,
> >as well as yours and all other US citizens on the
> ProFox group.  And,
> >knowing the issue for what it is you have a legal
> (and I would argue an
> >ethical) responsibility to report it.  See
> qualified Legal Counsel to find
> >out what steps to take before doing anything else.
> >
> >
> >Gil
> >
> >  
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> petetheisen
> >>Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:48 AM
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Re: Yet another consultant story.
> >>
> >>
> >>Michael Madigan wrote:
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Nope:)
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Hi Michael!
> >>
> >>Remember, John is a cop!
> >>
> >>If you help conceal this, *you* could be charged
> with complicity.
> >>Non-profits get federal money in the form of being
> tax deductible. If
> >>they waste money, it is federal money being
> wasted.
> >>
> >>You probably would qualify for whistle blower
> protection, however, so
> >>don't worry.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Pete
> >>    
> >>
> >>>--- john harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>Blow it up! Tell us who the non-profit is and
> the
> >>>>url!
> >>>>
> >>>>John Harvey
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>    
> >>
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