I don't think you can deprogram people who have had this hatred inculcated
into even their nursery rhymes. All through their developmental years, they
are told to hate the infidels. This "aggression" has existed since the days
of Abraham and it isn't likely to stop. The best we can hope for is a truce.
Those won't last either. The Muslims don't really appear to want peace, they
want extinction of the Jews. I cannot believe the liberal Jews who gave them
the Golan heights, and I as much as predicted the outcome of giving your
enemy the high ground. I think we should just back away for a while and let
the Israeli's take care of business. They won't kill them all, unless the
Muslims attempt to bring nukes out. Maybe Israel will be comprised of Iraq
and Iran too, if we leave them alone for a few weeks!



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Leland Jackson
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [OT] to start the healing process

Hey Michael, what would Jesus do.  I am more inclined to think that 
rehabilitation would be a better solution.  Some of these extremist, 
once deprogrammed form their hate/fear, might even become law abiding 
citizens, willing to work towards a world filled with peace and 
harmony.  You cannot fight terror with terror; because, it only adds 
fuel to the flames of fear/hate.  Terror breeds Terror, hate/fear breeds 
more hate/fear.  It would be better to rehabilitate and forgiven, than 
to enlarge the circle of violence which is cyclically self perpetuating.

1)  What is needed is diplomacy that brings mutual respect and 
understanding between competing factions.  We need a strong UN, 
respected by all parties, and capable of mediating disputes in a fair 
and impartial manner.

2) Next we should begin to deal with the root causes that are driving 
Islamic extremism, like social injustices because of discrimination in 
employment,  religious and racial bigotry, and discrimination in the 
criminal justice system, for example.

3)  Also, Americans need to realize they are allowing the new media, 
Evangelical Christians, and the Neo-conservative Bush Administration to 
terrorize and propagandize the public with fears of impending doom from 
radical Islamist.  Consequently, the America public is sending 
representative to Washington that are bargaining away their 
constituent's rights, freedoms, due process, and privacy guaranteed by 
the Constitution and Bill of Rights.  If Americans allow their 
Constitutional rights to be bargained away for a promise by our 
government of protection,  Americans will neither be free or safe, 
because that is a fools bargain.  It is up to the America people to 
fight the fight, and walk the walk to protect American and keep her 
independent and free.  If the American people don't take a stand today, 
the Neo-conservative will be writing a book in about two year titled 
"How to turn a Democratic Free Society into a Police Dictatorship in 
Eight Short Years".

The Bush Administration policies to terrorize the ME, and especially 
Iraq, by bombing any country that poses the slightest threat to Israel 
or the US back into the 17th Century, has been proved a failed policy.  
We need a new enlighten direction for our country, and we need to help 
all countries to grow and prosper, even as the US grows and prospers.

Regards,

LelandJ




Michael Madigan wrote:

>Bill,
>
>The Muslims want to kill us.  Hugging them will not
>change things.  Middle-Class English Citizens are
>plotting to blow up airlines.  These people must be
>exterminated.
>
>Mike
>
>--- Bill Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I think we should start the healing process with the
>>Muslim world by
>>putting the neocons, starting  with the architect of
>>the Iraq invasion,
>>Wolfowitz, on trail for war crimes, i.e. mass murder
>>and the destruction
>>of a country for special interest motives. That
>>wouldn't be the end of
>>it because we'll still have to deal with Big Oil and
>>the MI Complex's
>>involvement, and getting AIPAC out of this country
>>and putting Israel in
>>it's place, but it's all interwoven - as that trial
>>would bring out.
>>Such a trial will rivet the attention of the world
>>and give us a real
>>chance to actually end what they started.
>>
>>Oh, you say you're not tired of war yet? It's not
>>your mother in your
>>kitchen crying, or your brother in a wheel chair, so
>>why stop the drama
>>now? You want to let it go on for another couple of
>>years, so we can
>>have this conversation again, around the time we're
>>at each other's
>>throats over it? 
>>
>>And for what? Is it that we're all making so much
>>money off the MI
>>complex? Big Oil? Are we collectively programmed to
>>be so terrified of
>>the anti-Semitic finger that we just don't talk
>>about AIPAC? These are
>>the forces that brought us this war, these are our
>>enemy within, and we
>>will not get on the road to peace unless and until
>>we deal with them. We
>>can do it tomorrow or we can wait until they start
>>with the nukes "for
>>the cause". One thing you can be sure of is that
>>they will NOT give up
>>EVER. What makes this situation so extremely
>>dangerous is that the enemy
>>will not give up, EVER, either. As a very practical
>>matter, that leaves
>>us with a choice: either we reign these forces in,
>>or we continue to pay
>>the price for not having done so.
>>
>>
>>Bill
>>
>>
>>
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