They live in America and hate America.  Kill them all.

--- john harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So how do you propose to get the Arabs to do this?
> When they are sworn to
> kill the infidels (which means all non Muslims), how
> do you get beyond that?
> 
> Trust me, it will happen when pigs fly, and the lion
> lays down with the
> lamb!
> 
> John
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Leland Jackson
> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 2:58 PM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [OT] to start the healing process
> 
> Yes, I realize one of the major obstacles in bring
> peace to the middle 
> east is integration between Arab and Jew seems out
> of the question.  
> Without integration the Arab and Jew have no basis
> for a healthy 
> relationship, because they have no way to really get
> to know one 
> another  to become trusting friends.  It is only in
> segregation that the 
> walls of hate/fear between parties can be shaped in
> the minds of the 
> young.  These hate/fear impressions, itched deeply
> into the minds and 
> soul of children only one, two, and three years of
> age will persist 
> throughout their life times.
> 
> Here is one example of a heritage that breed
> segregation rather than 
> integration.  My brother Jim, during his high school
> days at Woodrow 
> Wilson High, had a Jewish girl friend.  At some
> point during the 
> relationship, marriage was discussed.  Jim, after
> having a few drinks on 
> day even went so far as driving down to Mexico with
> his girl friend in 
> an attempt to get married.
> 
> Soon after the parent's of Jim's girl friend visited
> the family and were 
> very strongly opposing the relationship.  One
> question that came up was 
> whether Jim had been circumcised, which he was, but
> from the 
> conversation it seem obvious that if had not been
> circumcised, that 
> could be used as a point to break up the
> relationship.
> 
> Until the children of the Arab and Jewish people are
> allowed to go to 
> school together, play together, visit each other for
> sleep overs, and 
> see one another as all part of the same human race
> with many more 
> similarities than differences, the fear/hate will
> continue, and there 
> can be no trust.
> 
> Still there is hope.  I don't think America, as a
> country, has the right 
> to favor one country over another, or one people
> over another.  God love 
> all people, and we should learn to all love one
> another.  To favor one 
> country, while bombing the other country back to the
> 17th Century, will 
> dig the US into a deeper hole.  The Jewish people
> must find a way to 
> integrate with their neighbor, so as to spread
> goodwill, trust, and 
> understanding, a kind of really getting to know each
> other.  This could 
> take many generations to occur, because of the
> customs of hate/fear and 
> sepregation that are so deeply rooted between the
> cultures of the middle 
> east.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> LelandJ
> 
> john harvey wrote:
> 
> >I don't think you can deprogram people who have had
> this hatred inculcated
> >into even their nursery rhymes. All through their
> developmental years, they
> >are told to hate the infidels. This "aggression"
> has existed since the days
> >of Abraham and it isn't likely to stop. The best we
> can hope for is a
> truce.
> >Those won't last either. The Muslims don't really
> appear to want peace,
> they
> >want extinction of the Jews. I cannot believe the
> liberal Jews who gave
> them
> >the Golan heights, and I as much as predicted the
> outcome of giving your
> >enemy the high ground. I think we should just back
> away for a while and let
> >the Israeli's take care of business. They won't
> kill them all, unless the
> >Muslims attempt to bring nukes out. Maybe Israel
> will be comprised of Iraq
> >and Iran too, if we leave them alone for a few
> weeks!
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> >Of Leland Jackson
> >Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:44 PM
> >To: ProFox Email List
> >Subject: Re: [OT] to start the healing process
> >
> >Hey Michael, what would Jesus do.  I am more
> inclined to think that 
> >rehabilitation would be a better solution.  Some of
> these extremist, 
> >once deprogrammed form their hate/fear, might even
> become law abiding 
> >citizens, willing to work towards a world filled
> with peace and 
> >harmony.  You cannot fight terror with terror;
> because, it only adds 
> >fuel to the flames of fear/hate.  Terror breeds
> Terror, hate/fear breeds 
> >more hate/fear.  It would be better to rehabilitate
> and forgiven, than 
> >to enlarge the circle of violence which is
> cyclically self perpetuating.
> >
> >1)  What is needed is diplomacy that brings mutual
> respect and 
> >understanding between competing factions.  We need
> a strong UN, 
> >respected by all parties, and capable of mediating
> disputes in a fair 
> >and impartial manner.
> >
> >2) Next we should begin to deal with the root
> causes that are driving 
> >Islamic extremism, like social injustices because
> of discrimination in 
> >employment,  religious and racial bigotry, and
> discrimination in the 
> >criminal justice system, for example.
> >
> >3)  Also, Americans need to realize they are
> allowing the new media, 
> >Evangelical Christians, and the Neo-conservative
> Bush Administration to 
> >terrorize and propagandize the public with fears of
> impending doom from 
> >radical Islamist.  Consequently, the America public
> is sending 
> >representative to Washington that are bargaining
> away their 
> >constituent's rights, freedoms, due process, and
> privacy guaranteed by 
> >the Constitution and Bill of Rights.  If Americans
> allow their 
> >Constitutional rights to be bargained away for a
> promise by our 
> >government of protection,  Americans will neither
> be free or safe, 
> >because that is a fools bargain.  It is up to the
> America people to 
> >fight the fight, and walk the walk to protect
> American and keep her 
> >independent and free.  If the American people don't
> take a stand today, 
> >the Neo-conservative will be writing a book in
> about two year titled 
> >"How to turn a Democratic Free Society into a
> Police Dictatorship in 
> >Eight Short Years".
> >
> >The Bush Administration policies to terrorize the
> ME, and especially 
> >Iraq, by bombing any country that poses the
> slightest threat to Israel 
> >or the US back into the 17th Century, has been
> proved a failed policy.  
> 
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