Why do the Arabs and Jews hate/fear one another? When a child is
brought into the world, whether Arab or Jew, they have no hate/fear.
Hate/fear is learned. How are the Arab children taught to hate/fear the
Jewish people? How are the Jewish children taught to hate/fear the Arab
people?. How is a Shiite child and a Sunni child of Iraq taught to
hate/fear. How is the American child taught to hate/fear?
When the world realizes it is teaching hate/fear, and the people of the
world have had enough, then respect, understanding, tolerance and love
will be taught to the children. Only then can there be peace throughout
the world.
Regards,
LelandJ
john harvey wrote:
So how do you propose to get the Arabs to do this? When they are sworn to
kill the infidels (which means all non Muslims), how do you get beyond that?
Trust me, it will happen when pigs fly, and the lion lays down with the
lamb!
John
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Yes, I realize one of the major obstacles in bring peace to the middle
east is integration between Arab and Jew seems out of the question.
Without integration the Arab and Jew have no basis for a healthy
relationship, because they have no way to really get to know one
another to become trusting friends. It is only in segregation that the
walls of hate/fear between parties can be shaped in the minds of the
young. These hate/fear impressions, itched deeply into the minds and
soul of children only one, two, and three years of age will persist
throughout their life times.
Here is one example of a heritage that breed segregation rather than
integration. My brother Jim, during his high school days at Woodrow
Wilson High, had a Jewish girl friend. At some point during the
relationship, marriage was discussed. Jim, after having a few drinks on
day even went so far as driving down to Mexico with his girl friend in
an attempt to get married.
Soon after the parent's of Jim's girl friend visited the family and were
very strongly opposing the relationship. One question that came up was
whether Jim had been circumcised, which he was, but from the
conversation it seem obvious that if had not been circumcised, that
could be used as a point to break up the relationship.
Until the children of the Arab and Jewish people are allowed to go to
school together, play together, visit each other for sleep overs, and
see one another as all part of the same human race with many more
similarities than differences, the fear/hate will continue, and there
can be no trust.
Still there is hope. I don't think America, as a country, has the right
to favor one country over another, or one people over another. God love
all people, and we should learn to all love one another. To favor one
country, while bombing the other country back to the 17th Century, will
dig the US into a deeper hole. The Jewish people must find a way to
integrate with their neighbor, so as to spread goodwill, trust, and
understanding, a kind of really getting to know each other. This could
take many generations to occur, because of the customs of hate/fear and
sepregation that are so deeply rooted between the cultures of the middle
east.
Regards,
LelandJ
john harvey wrote:
I don't think you can deprogram people who have had this hatred inculcated
into even their nursery rhymes. All through their developmental years, they
are told to hate the infidels. This "aggression" has existed since the days
of Abraham and it isn't likely to stop. The best we can hope for is a
truce.
Those won't last either. The Muslims don't really appear to want peace,
they
want extinction of the Jews. I cannot believe the liberal Jews who gave
them
the Golan heights, and I as much as predicted the outcome of giving your
enemy the high ground. I think we should just back away for a while and let
the Israeli's take care of business. They won't kill them all, unless the
Muslims attempt to bring nukes out. Maybe Israel will be comprised of Iraq
and Iran too, if we leave them alone for a few weeks!
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Hey Michael, what would Jesus do. I am more inclined to think that
rehabilitation would be a better solution. Some of these extremist,
once deprogrammed form their hate/fear, might even become law abiding
citizens, willing to work towards a world filled with peace and
harmony. You cannot fight terror with terror; because, it only adds
fuel to the flames of fear/hate. Terror breeds Terror, hate/fear breeds
more hate/fear. It would be better to rehabilitate and forgiven, than
to enlarge the circle of violence which is cyclically self perpetuating.
1) What is needed is diplomacy that brings mutual respect and
understanding between competing factions. We need a strong UN,
respected by all parties, and capable of mediating disputes in a fair
and impartial manner.
2) Next we should begin to deal with the root causes that are driving
Islamic extremism, like social injustices because of discrimination in
employment, religious and racial bigotry, and discrimination in the
criminal justice system, for example.
3) Also, Americans need to realize they are allowing the new media,
Evangelical Christians, and the Neo-conservative Bush Administration to
terrorize and propagandize the public with fears of impending doom from
radical Islamist. Consequently, the America public is sending
representative to Washington that are bargaining away their
constituent's rights, freedoms, due process, and privacy guaranteed by
the Constitution and Bill of Rights. If Americans allow their
Constitutional rights to be bargained away for a promise by our
government of protection, Americans will neither be free or safe,
because that is a fools bargain. It is up to the America people to
fight the fight, and walk the walk to protect American and keep her
independent and free. If the American people don't take a stand today,
the Neo-conservative will be writing a book in about two year titled
"How to turn a Democratic Free Society into a Police Dictatorship in
Eight Short Years".
The Bush Administration policies to terrorize the ME, and especially
Iraq, by bombing any country that poses the slightest threat to Israel
or the US back into the 17th Century, has been proved a failed policy.
We need a new enlighten direction for our country, and we need to help
all countries to grow and prosper, even as the US grows and prospers.
Regards,
LelandJ
Michael Madigan wrote:
Bill,
The Muslims want to kill us. Hugging them will not
change things. Middle-Class English Citizens are
plotting to blow up airlines. These people must be
exterminated.
Mike
--- Bill Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think we should start the healing process with the
Muslim world by
putting the neocons, starting with the architect of
the Iraq invasion,
Wolfowitz, on trail for war crimes, i.e. mass murder
and the destruction
of a country for special interest motives. That
wouldn't be the end of
it because we'll still have to deal with Big Oil and
the MI Complex's
involvement, and getting AIPAC out of this country
and putting Israel in
it's place, but it's all interwoven - as that trial
would bring out.
Such a trial will rivet the attention of the world
and give us a real
chance to actually end what they started.
Oh, you say you're not tired of war yet? It's not
your mother in your
kitchen crying, or your brother in a wheel chair, so
why stop the drama
now? You want to let it go on for another couple of
years, so we can
have this conversation again, around the time we're
at each other's
throats over it?
And for what? Is it that we're all making so much
money off the MI
complex? Big Oil? Are we collectively programmed to
be so terrified of
the anti-Semitic finger that we just don't talk
about AIPAC? These are
the forces that brought us this war, these are our
enemy within, and we
will not get on the road to peace unless and until
we deal with them. We
can do it tomorrow or we can wait until they start
with the nukes "for
the cause". One thing you can be sure of is that
they will NOT give up
EVER. What makes this situation so extremely
dangerous is that the enemy
will not give up, EVER, either. As a very practical
matter, that leaves
us with a choice: either we reign these forces in,
or we continue to pay
the price for not having done so.
Bill
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