Dominic,
I agree wholeheartedly. I have a very good friend who is Asian and Muslim,
who came over the the UK 30 years ago and started a small business of which
he is very proud. We have excellent discussions about Religion and Politics
and he certainly doesn't take offence about other people  disagreeing with
his beliefs and/or faith. 

I live near Burnley which is where my friend has his business and for those
of you who don't know, the Burnley and Blackburn area has an extremely high
percentage of muslim population. About 2 years ago now there was a lot of
racial riots sparked off by a meeting of the right wing BNP (British
National Party) and the equivalent on the Asian side - both in my opinion
deserve each other. Unfortunately it is both extremes of our society who get
all the media coverage, not the good living majority,

When the racial bubble burst, which it undoubtedly will do at some time in
the future in the UK if current policies of "stupid" political correctness
are followed, the good law abiding Asian and Black community will be the
first to have their shops and businesses fire-bombed and families attacked
etc etc. whilst I can see the majority of tolerant "non racict" blacks AND
whites just standing by and letting the violence happen as opposed to most
people's first though to "wade in" and stop any violence and thuggery.

This is very very sad, but in the words of my friend "destined to happen".
Both he and I may well not agree with other peoples views but we will BOTH
stand by their right to have these views, however distateful they may well
be. The silent majority need to stand up in throughout the world and condem
this stupid "Political Correctness" which is alienating normal good people
and instead instigate some common sense. Remember, the stupid "politically
correct" rules/decisions that are being made to fuel the racist's agenda and
alienate minorities are not actually made up and instigated by the
minorities themselves, they are made by my fallow protégé's in government
who are the product of a 60's culture where "those who could, did...did" and
those who couldn't went into teaching and government.

If we are all not careful, the idealistic and unrealistic views of certain
members of the "baby boomer (or should that be bummer)" society will come
back and bite us on the arse. In my oppinion, I want Britain to stay the way
I remember it in the 50's and 60's, as do I want France and Italy etc. to
remain with a proper national identity. I hope to retire to Italy in about
10 years time and - yes I want to stay British - but encompass ALL the laws,
customs and way of Italian life. The expression "When in Rome...." comes to
mind. One of these "ways of life" in all civilised societies should be to
stand up and stop the extremist elements at both ends of the spectrum from
gaining support. If not, then  I fear that I may well feel just like my
friend does now...but in 10 years time and in Italy. Oh how I hope that I am
wrong.

Dave Crozier
 The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly, and to lie
about your age 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Dominic Burford
Sent: 18 September 2006 09:31
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: RE: [OT] Pope stest the world straight.

If Muslims are really serious about being seen as a faith of peace and
tolerance, it would greatly help their cause to take their lumps like
everyone else.  At the merest sniff of criticism, bang on cue, they burn
effigies, burn buildings and have even resorted to murder (a nun was killed
in one recent  attack).  I realise these are probably a minority, but they
can be seen across the world in their thousands at these violent
demonstrations.

To the rest of the civilised world, they are perceived as a horde of
intolerant savages.  A phrase that I think they would do well to adhere to
is this - No-one has the right NOT to be offended.  In any democratic
society, free speech is a fundamental right.  A such, there are bound to be
things that are said or done that will offend you.  

I am normally very mild mannered and tolerant, but my patience is stretching
to breaking point with the attitude of a seemingly increasing number of
Muslims.

Regards

Dominic Burford BSc Hons MBCS CITP
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Jean Laeremans
Sent: 18 September 2006 09:04
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [OT] Pope stest the world straight.

On 9/18/06, Nicholas Geti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As usual you are changing the point. What has the past history of the 
> catholic church got to do with the Popes comments.

ROFL....if i do remember clearly he was himself referring to past Islam
history ? In the end it was a thinly disguised attack on the Islam.
If the leader of the catholic church really believes in putting oil on the
fire...we're not home yet...

A+
jml


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