On 11/07/2011 03:42 PM, Michael Madigan wrote:
> My uncle and cousins went through hell over the years, so I know what you're 
> going through.
>

Living with a hoarder does do some damage.  It can cause depression, 
hopelessness, and isolation from family, friends, or anyone else that 
may knock on the door.  This effect not only the hoarder, but anyone 
else trapped in a hoarding situation.

Regards,

LelandJ

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: lelandj<[email protected]>
> To: ProFox Email List<[email protected]>
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 4:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [OT] My new 2012 VW Golf, 2.0 Liter, TDI, 2 Door with Tech 
> Package
>
> On 11/07/2011 03:23 PM, Michael Madigan wrote:
>> My aunt is a hoarder.  What worked for us was bringing in a cleaning company 
>> against her will to throw out most of the junk.  We made sure not to throw 
>> out anything of value.  She had TONS of newspapers, cans, milk jugs, and 
>> other stuff that we recycled.   We gave her new rugs, painted the house, and 
>> it was like night and day.   Things are much better and she's kept it 
>> relatively clean since.
> I'm working on it.  Otherwise we remain a kind of Ma and Pa Kettle
> couple or odd couple, if you will.  LOL
>
> Regards,
>
> LelandJ
>
>>     
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: lelandj<[email protected]>
>> To: ProFox Email List<[email protected]>
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 4:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [OT] My new 2012 VW Golf, 2.0 Liter, TDI, 2 Door with Tech 
>> Package
>>
>> On 11/07/2011 02:46 PM, geoff wrote:
>>> She sounds like a business partner or friend - not a wife. Just my
>>> impressions but it sounds odd to me.
>> I encourage you to watch a few episodes of "Hoarding", which is a TV
>> series, and you might understand better.  My wife hoards everything
>> including lot of junk mixed in with some valuable stuff, food, house
>> space, etc.  She can even suck the vary air out of a room and hoard it.  LOL
>>
>> The Hoarder develops a strong relationship with their stuff that is more
>> important than a relationship with their kids, husbands, and other
>> family, so we do have an odd relationship, but one that is workable, if
>> we respect each others idiosyncrasies, try not to be to judgemental,
>> give each other plenty of space without trying to control, and we do
>> care about each other.  Living with a hoarder is better than living
>> alone, at least up to a point.  The alternative is loneliness.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> LelandJ
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
>>> Of lelandj
>>> Sent: Tuesday, 8 November 2011 6:50 AM
>>> To: ProFox Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [OT] My new 2012 VW Golf, 2.0 Liter, TDI, 2 Door with Tech
>>> Package
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/07/2011 01:57 PM, Michael Madigan wrote:
>>>> You're charging your wife for the car?   What a humanitarian you are.
>>> Why not take the proceeds and give it to the poor?
>>>
>>> The value of the used 2005 Jetta Wagon, which is very low mileage, is
>>> somewhere in the range of $16,000.00 to $17,500.00.  The value of her Dodge
>>> Caravan is practically nothing; because, it has damage all over from bumps,
>>> ding, scrapes, collisions, etc, and will require significant body work.  I
>>> think the problem with her Caravan is due to her ADHD.
>>> She is so easily distracted, even when doing something she really enjoys.
>>> This inability to maintain focus, (eg attention deficit),  is a problem when
>>> driving.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I really am giving her the VW Jetta Wagon, but in a way that will
>>> force her to sell the Dodge Caravan, so its out of my hair.  Once she has
>>> title to the Jetta Wagon TDI, she can use it as a trade in on another car,
>>> sell it, keep it, or do anything else she wants with it.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> LelandJ
>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: lelandj<[email protected]>
>>>> To: ProFox Email List<[email protected]>
>>>> Cc:
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 1:43 PM
>>>> Subject: [OT] My new 2012 VW Golf, 2.0 Liter, TDI, 2 Door with Tech
>>>> Package
>>>>
>>>> I ordered my new car from Sterling Volkswagen around the end of June
>>>> 2011.  The car was made in Germany and Shipped to the USA.  I was
>>>> notified on 10/23/2011 by Sterling Volkswagen that the car was in.  I
>>>> when down the following day and took position of her.  She had 14
>>>> miles on her when I drove her off the lot.
>>>>
>>>> The 2012 VW Golf TDI with Tech Package isn't in the same class as BMW
>>>> or Audi, but it's close.  LOL
>>>>
>>>> Instead of trading in the 2005 Jetta Wagon, I passed that along to my
>>>> wife, and she's loving it.  As soon as she sells her Dodge Caravan,
>>>> and turns the proceeds over to me, I'll sign over title to the Jetta
>>>> Wagon to her.  Her Dodge Caravan is really beat up, (eg she has
>>>> ADHD/Hourding and all), so I'll be lucky to get $2,000.00 out of her
>>>> for it, but the important thing to me is that she turns lose of it;
>>>> because, I don't want it sitting out on the curb for the next 20
>>>> years.  LOL
>>>>
>>>> I finally got time to make a video of the 2012 Golf TDI.  Click on the
>>>> link below to see it.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=285HFH0Ceic&feature=player_profilepage
>>>>
>>>> Here is a youtube video of an "Adoptive Front lighting system, AFS".
>>>> The AFS only comes with the Tech package and was my major motivation
>>>> for going that route.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf35x23JLhE
>>>>
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