At 09:07 AM 11/17/2012 -0600, lelandj wrote:

Leland, try to take off your liberal-at-any-cost hat for a moment and think sincerely about the following:

Petraeus may have done a lot of good things but his resignation is appropriate. And the revealing of it by the Intelligence Community is absolutely right and just.
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Why should one group of Americans be held to a higher standard than the whole. Why should the government, including the intelligence community, be allow to meddle into the personal affairs of Americans? LOL - pun intended. The founding fathers of the USA, having experienced first hand persecution, torture, alienation, and other injustice from their governments, put strong privacy protections into the USA Constitution to protect Americans against an overreaching government.
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First, the "why". Why should government officials be held to a higher standard? Because their office reflects a trust of the citizens. I hold my trusted friends to a higher standard of conduct with me than, say, I expect out of total strangers. So to me, if I give you my trust you should expect that I expect more out of you. I believe our Founding Fathers saw it this way as well: their correspondence intoned a public office in our union engendered the utmost responsibility to those governed. Next, governmental positions have power over others. So any given action they take has a far greater potential to affect people than just an average citizen.

The above is the general ethical/moral view. But lets talk about common sense for a moment. Any official that commits illegal, unethical, or even anything that may be personally embarrassing becomes a risk to their office. They become a target for blackmail or bribery. For example, a city councilman has an affair with an underage girl. A certain shady set of folks get photos and threaten to go public if the councilman doesn't change his vote on a zoning issue. The same scenario holds for those with access to classified information. This is the common sense reason why they must be held to higher codes of conduct. If you don't want to live by that code, don't try to get a job with the government.

But Leland's thoughts reflect the general sentiment of the country. Since Clinton got away with lying about his affair the nation has dropped it's expectations of elected officials dramatically (no it wasn't "all" Clinton's fault, we have been
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believe the wealthy has cheated the rest of us and that they should be forced to give up their money/property to be fair. Adversaries of the US and democracy in general can rejoice. The Great Experiment is winding down, proving out once again that man's greed and jealousy outweigh his intelligence.

Get a life, Charlie. It really is OK. We're not the Taliban here in the good old USA. LOL

How about you get a brain Leland? The fact that we're NOT the Taliban means our government officials MUST answer to us. If we were a dictatorship or socialistic government then sure, the folks in charge could do whatever they want to whomever they want whenever they want. Think about that for at least a couple minutes.

But I imagine you would be the first in line to string up an official that didn't share your liberal bias. You're a walking contradiction to rational thinking. And like I said, you're not alone. There's a bunch of other people out there that's let their mind deteriorate to the point of just repeating the brief snippets they get from their favorite liberal news outlet or web site.

And for me personally I'm totally at peace that things will be OK. A thousand years from now this situation will be meaningless to me. But I do want to provide a good legacy to my kids, grandkids, etc. That's the main reason I try to get people to think about this stuff. I realize that may not be understood by those that want everything for themselves right now. But maybe some aren't too far gone to get the brain working again.

-Charlie


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