Thanks for the heads up Dan
I think they are becoming as bad as google, watching everything you do. I
did prefer to use Bing but now Im not so sure either of them are truthful.
For example do a google search. Pick one of the top ones and the browser
tells you it's going to the site, but it doesn't. It goes to googleservices
first. Well it would do if I had not put a host file on. They are all
frauds.
I will look into Start8. It says 8.1 allows more than one metro app. Well
I've not yet found a metro app worth bothering about. They are usually
lesser products. Non the less I will upgrade to 8.1. If I was not so techie
I might have stayed with 7. But once you get used to metro's search its
easier.
Looks like the start button is a joke then.
Al

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Hi, Allen

I have a developer release of the real 8.1, which I just installed as an
upgrade over my dual-boot Win 8.  Install went very well, and I did not lose
any applications.

Yes, there's a start BUTTON but no MENU.  I already had Start8 (menu) and
ModernMix (Metro apps in a window), the upgrade preserved them, and you will
definitely want them.  $4.99 each from Stardock.com.

I haven't seen any bugs yet, but you will definitely need to plan a lot of
time for setup.  There are some very nasty privacy issues around the use of
Bing to target advertising.  You can turn it off, but you'll need to work at
it.

Worst thing I've hit so far:  under Privacy, went to turn off the targeted
advertising.  There's a video to play on how advertising is so good for you.
But it's a Flash video (I thought MS didn't like Flash!), and it wanted to
update my Flash Player.  I said OK, and then noticed that the update
included McAfee "Security Scan Plus".
I un-checked it ok, but you should NOT be getting drive-by downloads from a
Microsoft program!!

Anyway, whether you like it or not, it works fine.

Dan



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